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Long Lens Backlit Rejects, What Would You Do?  
User currently offlineTappan From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1538 posts, RR: 41
Posted (9 years 1 week 4 days ago) and read 3571 times:

Canon 500 F4.5 with a 1.4 teleconverter...Backlit and very far away.
Do you....
A) Not even shoot it and wait for better light.....
B) Jack up the contrast....
or
C) Unsharp mask it......

http://photobucket.com/albums/y255/T...g/?action=view¤t=newLuft.jpg

http://photobucket.com/albums/y255/T...g/?action=view¤t=BritBos.jpg

Sincerely,
"Frustrated in Boston".......

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User currently offlineIL76 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2004, 2237 posts, RR: 48
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days ago) and read 3557 times:

I'd say: Bin them...
The heathaze prevents you from taking any long-range shots. It's a pain, but nothing you can do about it. When the light is like this (very high mid day sun) I normally go home.
Is there any other time of the day that you can shoot at this spot with nicer light (pref morning or evening)?

Eduard

[Edited 2005-09-13 16:17:51]

User currently offlineTappan From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1538 posts, RR: 41
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days ago) and read 3541 times:

Eduard,
Thanks....Never heard of Bin....but I tend to agree with you. The only problem is that this runway in Boston is not used too much and when it is used it is almost always a hazy or foggy day (SE wind)...
Mark


User currently offlineAKE0404AR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2535 posts, RR: 45
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days ago) and read 3538 times:

Mr. Long lens is back in the game.....

1.) forget about it....you will never save this one. Way too much heat haze and the sun coming from the southwest does not really help it.

2.) Different story. I'd be interested to see the original file (RAW or jpg)
There might be a chance to save it.

But since when are you shooting with a Canon 500 f4.5????????????????????????

Vasco

p.s. I am glad that you went out shooting again!!!!!!!!! (even w/o me dragging you out there)


User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days ago) and read 3535 times:

Move on, You can't fight pics that are backlit. I took some good ones at JFK early yesterday when they were arriving 22L from a favorite spot and the sun was horrible. Looked at them over and over and just trashed them. You are going to get them rejected so why bother. Best piece of advice I got when I started was shoot with the sun behind you. Anything else is a waste of time unfortunately. Nice shots though.

User currently offlineScooter From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 854 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days ago) and read 3526 times:

Mark, I'm actually suprised that you are asking this! You have proven yourself to be a well-respected photographer who goes after the IMAGE and not the registration. Please don't try to change your photographic eye/style just for this site. I will be honest and say that the above images are not a.net material, but (as always), you get "mad props" for persuing the unique angles.

A.net is all about technically perfect shots (nothing wrong with that at all), and you have a different style which goes against the grain, so to speak (again, nothing wrong with that either). I'd forget about trying to get those images uploaded here.

Anyway, FWIW, I think if you tried the same thing in the first or last hour of light in the day, you might get a stunning result.





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GASP...did I just give Mark Garfinkel photography advice??? What is this world coming to?  Smile


User currently offlineTappan From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1538 posts, RR: 41
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days ago) and read 3521 times:

Thanks. Very nice of you all.
I don't blame the screeners for the rejects...
I was truly wondering if anybody out there had any magic formula regarding contrast and unsharp mask or both of them together to try and save these knowing full well that this shot will almost never be front lit or on a crystal clear day.
Yes, all of us need help one time or another...
Mark Garfinkel
p.s Vasco, are you kidding? Me going out with you to photograph jets, at Logan?
Didn't we almost get arrested last time??


User currently offlineAKE0404AR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2535 posts, RR: 45
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3505 times:

Quoting Tappan (Reply 6):
p.s Vasco, are you kidding? Me going out with you to photograph jets, at Logan?
Didn't we almost get arrested last time??

Who was the guy again who was middle eastern looking?????? me or you. Oh yes, the cops said 2 guys.......

The second shot (BA)....was that RAW or jpg?????
I had a similar shot accepted shot under difficult light, I might be able to help you.

Vasco


User currently offlineTappan From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1538 posts, RR: 41
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3471 times:

Vasco's photos seem to mix both......
fresh angles with technical excellence...
Way to go Vasco.....
Mark G


User currently offlineAKE0404AR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2535 posts, RR: 45
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3442 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 4):
Looked at them over and over and just trashed them. You are going to get them rejected so why bother

IMHO this is defintely the wrong approach, why????
Do you guys just shoot for a.net? A.net is certainly not the center of the world when it comes to aviation images. What is an acceptable shot for an editor, art director etc. may not be suitable for this site, so be it.

Scooter summed it up pretty nicely. Read what he had to say.

Vasco


User currently offlineGranite From UK - Scotland, joined May 1999, 5568 posts, RR: 63
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3404 times:
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Hi Mark

Sorry, I would choose option A.

Image might be good for b/w press article but not really for Airliners.net. That's just the way it is. We follow Johan's guidelines.

Regards

Gary


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