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User currently offlineKnighty From Australia, joined Dec 2004, 207 posts, RR: 3
Posted (9 years 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2139 times:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r.../big/YMML_210905_270_VH-EBT_01.jpg

Got pinged for motiv - can anyone help me out with why?

Cheers,
Knighty


Ian Knight - Proud Canon shooter!
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User currently offlinePhilthy From Australia, joined May 2005, 123 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2134 times:

No idea, mate. I like it though.

I've started a similar thread on one of mine at the same time as you.

Somewhat incomprehensible!

Cheers,

Philthy


User currently offlineEadster From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2216 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2115 times:

I have no idea either.

Maybe the B&W??

Other than that, I dunno. Another great shot the DB misses out on.


User currently offlineDRAIGONAIR From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 708 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2081 times:

Nice photo  Smile

I think it is indeed the black and white thing? Not really sure what the rules are for B&W photos.

cheers

Nick



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User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12571 posts, RR: 46
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2064 times:
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Er, what's your motive for uploading b&w? If it was a DC-3 I could understand it, but a QF 747?


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User currently offlineKnighty From Australia, joined Dec 2004, 207 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2055 times:


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Why should only vintage aircraft be photographed in black and white? What's so bad about trying to be a little creative with modern aircraft? Why shouldn't we try and make an image a little bit different?
So to answer your question - simply because I can, because I want to and because there is no reason not to!

Knighty



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User currently offlineStealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5704 posts, RR: 44
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2041 times:
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Quoting Knighty (Reply 5):
Why should only vintage aircraft be photographed in black and white? What's so bad about trying to be a little creative with modern aircraft? Why shouldn't we try and make an image a little bit different?
So to answer your question - simply because I can, because I want to and because there is no reason not to!

Absolutely... there are countless more examples in the db of mono photos taken after the advent of colour film, infact I would venture that ALL the mono shots in the db were taken after the advent of colour film.. why the sudden change in attitude??



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User currently offlineRotate From Switzerland, joined Feb 2003, 1491 posts, RR: 16
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2027 times:


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pretty sure, it was not rejected for being in b&w .....

Robin



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User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2025 times:

Quoting Knighty (Reply 5):
Why should only vintage aircraft be photographed in black and white?

Did you shoot it in B&W? Or was it color and you removed it? Due to the lack of contrast, and flat appearance, I would guess the later.

Quoting Knighty (Reply 5):
What's so bad about trying to be a little creative with modern aircraft?

No offense, but does desaturating an image make it "creative"? Do we gain anything from it being in B&W? Ever have KoolAid with out sugar?

Quoting Knighty (Reply 5):
Why shouldn't we try and make an image a little bit different?
So to answer your question - simply because I can, because I want to and because there is no reason not to!

Well, it appears that is your question, not ours, but you are right. You do have the right to upload like that, and the screeners have exercised theirs as well. Sorry, but that photo needs color.


User currently offlineKnighty From Australia, joined Dec 2004, 207 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1978 times:

Quoting JeffM (Reply 8):
Did you shoot it in B&W? Or was it color and you removed it? Due to the lack of contrast, and flat appearance, I would guess the later

Shot in colour, desaturated later.

Quoting JeffM (Reply 8):
No offense, but does desaturating an image make it "creative"? Do we gain anything from it being in B&W? Ever have KoolAid with out sugar?

And KoolAid is? Sounds like something you stick in your car to stop it overheating. I think in this case that it is making it creative. There are 70 other shots of EBT in the database, all in colour. I wanted my shot to be different.

Quoting JeffM (Reply 8):
Well, it appears that is your question, not ours, but you are right.

I know these are my questions, and I asked myself them.

Quoting JeffM (Reply 8):
Sorry, but that photo needs color.

Like the other 70? Bollocks it does! Nothing would be gained by it being in colour, and IMO (because I saw the colour version) there would be something lost. Thanks for your reply though, and I'll take on board what you said about it being a bit flat. I'll have a rework and see what happens.
Cheers,
Knighty



Ian Knight - Proud Canon shooter!
User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 52
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1968 times:

Quoting Knighty (Reply 9):
And KoolAid is?

Sorry, thought just about everyone has had KoolAid before. It is a flavored kids drink. Comes in powdered form, add water and sugar...yum. Forget the sugar....YUK!

Quoting Knighty (Reply 9):
I think in this case that it is making it creative.

I don't, Screeners didn't either by the looks of it. Santa Claus doesn't look right in B&W, that big red tail doesn't look good in gray.


User currently offlineKnighty From Australia, joined Dec 2004, 207 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1957 times:

Quoting JeffM (Reply 10):
Sorry, thought just about everyone has had KoolAid before. It is a flavored kids drink. Comes in powdered form, add water and sugar...yum. Forget the sugar....YUK!

Cottees Raspberry Cordial is my liquid sugar of choice, but thanks for clearing that up!


Quoting JeffM (Reply 10):
Santa Claus doesn't look right in B&W, that big red tail doesn't look good in gray.

That's a really good point, and I agree with you that the big red doesn't look good in grey. Everything can look good in black and white though. I think that could be where I've gone wrong, I made a greyscale image rather than making a black and white image. I reworked it to make it a bit punchier, do you think it looks better? http://www.pbase.com/knighty/image/50017328

Knighty



Ian Knight - Proud Canon shooter!
User currently offlineLeanOfPeak From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 509 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1945 times:

There are some photos that look right in B&W (And, yes, some of them are of modern aircraft). I really don't think that's one of them. Seeing the punchier version, it's better, but I'm still not sure what it accomplishes.

I would also say that the crop of the horizontal stabilizer and wing feels awkward, though I can't put my finger on why, and that might have been part of it (Though I'm not a screener).

[Edited 2005-09-30 04:19:42]

User currently offlineKnighty From Australia, joined Dec 2004, 207 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1927 times:


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I appealed it and it just got accepted. Thanks for your opinions everyone, they'll all be taken on board for next time!

Knighty



Ian Knight - Proud Canon shooter!
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