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Banging My Head Against A Brick Wall Yet Again!  
User currently offlineDC10Tim From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1406 posts, RR: 14
Posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 1899 times:

Hi everyone again,

After not really knowing what to do last week, both with the poor metering of my 300D and my monitor not being calibrated properly, I invested in a Colorplus device to calibrate the monitor, and hopefully get thing looking right. Bearing in mind it claims to produce a "correct" representation of colour, and not just what the eye perceives, I've been trusting it all week to do my editing.

However, I'm not a happy bunny. First of all, Adobe Gamma needs to be removed for it to work, which I couldn't find at first, but did eventually. Uninstalling Photoshop doesn't get rid of it, so it's a matter of phisically deleting it, which I did, then ran the calibration.

The problem is that after the calibration has been run, all the text on my new monitor seems blurred.

Does anyone else have any experience of using this program or the Spyder software, who can help out here?

Secondly, I am not convinced that I have the lighting correct on any of my uploads at all. Perhaps because of the metering, perhaps because he colour is wrong on the monitor and perhaps because of my inexperience. Whatever the reason, the linked shots below just don't seem right for some reason.

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/atlanta74724l.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/brummiebaby.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/klm737nose2.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/bmiA330wing.jpg

As always, I need your help, so any constructive advice is welcome  Smile

Regards,

Tim.


Obviously missing something....
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User currently offlineCallMeCapt From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 496 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 1889 times:

My opinion, scrap your calibration tool. Use Adobe Gamma and your own eyes and judgement. Don't use a program to perceive what your own eyes can see. It may take some getting used to, but photography is, after all, an art form.
It took me a few months to get it right.
Goran



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User currently offlineEadster From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2216 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 1884 times:

They look fine to me!

User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 1871 times:

Quoting DC10Tim (Thread starter):
Secondly, I am not convinced that I have the lighting correct on any of my uploads at all.

They look normal on all 3 of my monitors.

Quoting CallMeCapt (Reply 1):
scrap your calibration tool. Use Adobe Gamma and your own eyes and judgement.



Quoting CallMeCapt (Reply 1):
scrap your calibration tool. Use Adobe Gamma and your own eyes and judgement. Don't use a program to perceive what your own eyes can see.

??? The tool doesn't lie. Your eyes adjust for day light, florescent, incandescent, etc. In other words, your eyes do lie. I would stick with the tool.


User currently offlinePsych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 3048 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week ago) and read 1809 times:
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Hi Tim,

I will reply here as I still don't know what's going on with our emails.

As I said to you in the emails, the colours in all these look fine to me. I genuinely don't think you have anything to worry about. It is a bummer you have now found Adobe Gamma, as I was sure that would do the trick anyway - that's what I have used in the past.

I do wonder whether, in the end, all these things do roughly the same thing. If so, it may be appropriate to swallow hard, swap with Adobe Gamma again and see if you can see any difference in the pictures. You don't want any other aspects of your computer to be affected by this program, such as the text.

If I look at your Atlanta 747, and compare it to my shot, they look pretty much the same in terms of colour:

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Photo © Paul Markman


I reckon your colour is fine - you can chill  biggrin .

Take care.

Paul


User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12405 posts, RR: 46
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week ago) and read 1788 times:
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I think your colours look fine Tim, but IMHO the shots are slightly overexposed. There's some loss of detail around the nose area. Probably fixable in PS for these shots.


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User currently offlineDC10Tim From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1406 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week ago) and read 1788 times:

Thanks for the responses.

Morning Paul, I don't think that you're getting any of my emails at all now. Maybe I'm becoming a little paranoid, but all your shots from last Saturday seem to be more saturated and have generally a warmer feel to them than mine. Also getting the brightness correct is becoming a pain. That lovely blue sky looks like an impending thunderstorm on a lot of the edits. Again, that might just be my inexperience with editing the slightly underexposed originals. There's no way I can have the text blurred likle it is. Unless I can find a way around the problem, it's back to the shop on Monday.

Jeff, I seem to recall you recommending using a calibration tool in another thread. Have you come accross any problems with text appearing slightly out of focus? Could there be some elements of Adobe Gamma still lurking there interfering with the Colorplus program?

Regards,

Tim.



Obviously missing something....
User currently offlineLinco22 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1380 posts, RR: 16
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1759 times:

Tim, if I was producing shots like that i'd no questions at all! They all look fine! Even on my bog standard 15" Dell TFT monitor in work which usually adds a big spoonful of noise and grain compared to my 17" CRT at home. Keep the good shots coming Tim


Colin


User currently offlineFergulmcc From Ireland, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 53
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1721 times:

Quoting DC10Tim (Thread starter):
Secondly, I am not convinced that I have the lighting correct on any of my uploads at all. Perhaps because of the metering, perhaps because he colour is wrong on the monitor and perhaps because of my inexperience. Whatever the reason, the linked shots below just don't seem right for some reason.



Quoting JeffM (Reply 3):
They look normal on all 3 of my monitors.

Tim I would have to agree with Jeff and the others, those shots look brilliant to me mate, real crackers. Colour is fine too, if anything excellent. It's just made me even more inclined to buy this calibration tool. Sorry Goran  white 

I would upload them Tim, nice shots . Lets hope we get some good weather tomorrow, see you there.

Fergul  sun 



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User currently offlineLinco22 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1380 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1715 times:

Quoting Fergulmcc (Reply 8):
Lets hope we get some good weather tomorrow, see you there.

Hi Fergul, hope you're well! If only i'd known you were heading over tomorrow i'd have put off my trip to MAN back in August. I hope you get the weather, I didnt, it was horrible!

Colin


User currently offlineDiezel From Netherlands, joined Oct 2002, 646 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1706 times:

Tim, I would also say that the pictures look ok (if not a little warm) on my monitor (iiyama TFT).

Roel.



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