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Banned For Two Weeks. Reason?  
User currently offlineAlexandru From Ireland, joined May 2005, 65 posts, RR: 3
Posted (8 years 12 months 9 hours ago) and read 2813 times:

Hello All,

I just got this weird message this morning:

"Due to repeated violations of our photo upload rules and guidelines, you have been banned from uploading photos to Airliners.net for 2 weeks. Following this ban, all photos you had in the upload queue have been removed

Here follows a personal message from the screeners regarding this ban:

For cloning/manipulation.

Sincerely,
The Airliners.net Photo Screening Crew
screeners@airliners.net"

Now I cannot remember of cloning pictures, all I do is removing the dustspots.
I think they should send a link to te picture they think it was manipulated.

Also they are saying "Due to repeated violations". They should send a warning first and then proceed with the ban.

All my 22 pictures from the queue were removed so I wouldn't know now wich ones were in the que as I put all the uploaded ones in the same folder.

I don't think I will bother uploading anymore pictures because I think this is not fare at all.

I would like to see other people views on this.

Good luck,
Alexandru.

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User currently offlineSulman From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2035 posts, RR: 32
Reply 1, posted (8 years 12 months 9 hours ago) and read 2804 times:

I could be misunderstanding you, but you state that you "cannot remember" cloning anything other than dustspots. To me, that's not the same as "have not cloned anything."

Also "They should send a warning first and then proceed with the ban." Has it happened before?

Not pointing any fingers, just curious.


James



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User currently offlineFergulmcc From Ireland, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 53
Reply 2, posted (8 years 12 months 8 hours ago) and read 2746 times:

Quoting Sulman (Reply 1):
Also "They should send a warning first and then proceed with the ban." Has it happened before?

Agreed, they should warn you first Alex.
Send an e-mail to the screeners asking which photo/s are in question.

Fergul   
Edit, I didn't think you were the cloning type Alex, apart from dust spots. You must have done something! Let us know how you get on You should have e-mail the screeners first before posting. .

[Edited 2005-09-30 11:37:08]
posting.

[Edited 2005-09-30 11:38:15]

[Edited 2005-09-30 11:39:32]


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User currently offlineRotate From Switzerland, joined Feb 2003, 1491 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (8 years 12 months 7 hours ago) and read 2725 times:

OH WELL , SOMEBODY MUST BE THE 1ST TO GET BANNED ...

Dont get me wrong, but if you cloned something else out than dustspots, I think you should be banned just right away.

After all the discussions we had the recent weeks, everybody should be aware: IT IS FORBIDDEN TO MANIPULATE.

so why there should be a warning?

Robin



ABC
User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12569 posts, RR: 46
Reply 4, posted (8 years 12 months 7 hours ago) and read 2693 times:
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I can see both sides here. The email says "Due to repeated violations".

If someone has violated the rules (regardless of which rule it is), they should be given a warning on the first violation, told that this is against the rules and not to do it again. Then if they do it again ban them.

I also can't see the point in not telling the guy exactly what the issue is, and with which picture. It's not like the screeners never make a mistake.



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User currently offlineDiezel From Netherlands, joined Oct 2002, 646 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (8 years 12 months 7 hours ago) and read 2684 times:

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 4):
I also can't see the point in not telling the guy exactly what the issue is, and with which picture

I agree. Somebody is innocent until it is proven otherwise. I don't think you make friends by banning somebody without pointing out what he did exacltly and where he did it.

My 2 cents.

Roel.



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User currently offlineAlexandru From Ireland, joined May 2005, 65 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (8 years 12 months 6 hours ago) and read 2655 times:

I requested the picture in question and I got a prompt reply. Thanks to headscreeners for that.

Now, I will share with you the two pictures.

http://homepage.eircom.net/~alexandru/banned1.JPG

second

http://homepage.eircom.net/~alexandru/banned2.JPG



Alexandru


User currently offlineFergulmcc From Ireland, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 53
Reply 7, posted (8 years 12 months 6 hours ago) and read 2652 times:

Quoting Rotate (Reply 3):
so why there should be a warning?

Oh yeah now I remeber the reason why the warning was intorduced, because of this Shoot First, Ask Questions later attitude!

I also agree with Steve, there should have been a warning at least unless it was blatent cloning. Alex I think you need to clarify a few things here. Are you sure that you haven't received any warning and have you tried to contact the screeners themselves. Like I said in my previous thread, you should have tried to resolve this through the e-mails first.

Hope you get sorted

Fergul  sun 



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User currently offlineFergulmcc From Ireland, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 53
Reply 8, posted (8 years 12 months 6 hours ago) and read 2646 times:

Quoting Alexandru (Reply 6):
Now, I will share with you the two pictures.

... but what are they saying that you cloned out Alex??

Fergul  sun 



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User currently offlineIL76 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2004, 2237 posts, RR: 48
Reply 9, posted (8 years 12 months 6 hours ago) and read 2647 times:

I can see the cloning even without opening the large version... Pretty obvious cloning if you ask me, and not really removing a dust spot, now is it?!  Wow!

Eduard


User currently offlineAtco From Canada, joined Jul 2001, 277 posts, RR: 23
Reply 10, posted (8 years 12 months 6 hours ago) and read 2639 times:

Wow, that is pretty obvious.

Those must have been some mighty big dust spots.

Sorry but you don't really have a leg to stand on, on this one



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User currently offlineFergulmcc From Ireland, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 53
Reply 11, posted (8 years 12 months 6 hours ago) and read 2631 times:

Quoting IL76 (Reply 9):
I can see the cloning even without opening the large version...

I should have gone to specsavers    Ok I can see it in the grass on both, it is Friday you know   

Quoting Atco (Reply 10):
Those must have been some mighty big dust spots.

No its those bloody rabbits at DUB, the place is riddled with them, trust me I worked there. Big grin



Fergul  

[Edited 2005-09-30 13:29:07]


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User currently offlineJid From Barbados, joined Dec 2004, 972 posts, RR: 31
Reply 12, posted (8 years 12 months 6 hours ago) and read 2614 times:

I'm afraid its true ... not a good cloning job at all Sad

Still have a break and refine your technique.

Good luck .. Jid



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User currently offlineRotate From Switzerland, joined Feb 2003, 1491 posts, RR: 16
Reply 13, posted (8 years 12 months 6 hours ago) and read 2608 times:

Quoting Fergulmcc (Reply 7):
Quoting Rotate (Reply 3):
so why there should be a warning?

Oh yeah now I remeber the reason why the warning was intorduced, because of this Shoot First, Ask Questions later attitude!

I also agree with Steve, there should have been a warning at least unless it was blatent cloning.

I understand what you are talking about, but in this case .... , I am sorry - BAN!

Robin



ABC
User currently offlineGranite From UK - Scotland, joined May 1999, 5568 posts, RR: 63
Reply 14, posted (8 years 12 months 6 hours ago) and read 2598 times:
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Hi all

Quoting Fergulmcc (Reply 7):
unless it was blatent cloning

This was the case.

Sorry Alexandru, if you are able to post here asking about the ban, you will have been able to read the post about cloning that has been around here for a few weeks.

Regards

Gary

[Edited 2005-09-30 13:41:11]

User currently offlineFergulmcc From Ireland, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 53
Reply 15, posted (8 years 12 months 6 hours ago) and read 2591 times:

Quoting Rotate (Reply 13):
I understand what you are talking about, but in this case .... , I am sorry - BAN!



Quoting Fergulmcc (Reply 7):
unless it was blatent cloning.

Unfortunately I have to agree with you Robin. Alex is a very good friend of mine and we have had some really good times at DUB. I have a lot of time for him and a lot of respect too. It hurts me to see this, very sad indeed, but its happened and we must move on. I hope you are ok Alex but like I said a few times......

Quoting Fergulmcc (Reply 7):
you should have tried to resolve this through the e-mails first.

Take care

Fergul  sun 



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User currently offlineGranite From UK - Scotland, joined May 1999, 5568 posts, RR: 63
Reply 16, posted (8 years 12 months 5 hours ago) and read 2572 times:
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Hi all

The 'Due to repeated violations' comment will be amended and or/removed.

Regards

Gary


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