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Photo Sale To Delius Producing - Not Paid  
User currently offlineTin67 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 268 posts, RR: 3
Posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3800 times:

There was a thread started back in July where a number of people indicated that they had agreed terms for photo sales to a company call Delius Producing.

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I too agreed terms with this company and provided the photo. I am now battling to get money out of them. I have received messages saying "I will process payment next week" only for time to pass and no response. They are no longer responding to my messages.

I would like to hear of other people who dealt with this company, find out if you've been paid and if the book arrives I'd love to know if my photo has been included. This is the shot I provided


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Martin

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User currently offlineAKE0404AR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2535 posts, RR: 47
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3749 times:

Martin,

I have dealt with them about 18 months ago and I did not have any problems at all. Payment was processed once the book was published.

If have dealt directly with the owner. If you need help let me know.

Vasco Garcia


User currently offlineINNflight From Austria, joined Apr 2004, 3765 posts, RR: 60
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3735 times:

Hi Martin, see what I wrote in another thread lately.

Quoting INNflight (Reply 29):
Send companies a strong but polite letter! That helps often. For more than 2 months, a company refused to pay me, and after dozends of emails with no clear response, I sent them a letter with my invoice some days ago stating the usage is illegal and if we can't get further on this case they'll get a letter from my lawyer.

And oh wonder, today I find 740 euros from them on my bank account.

Sending it via courier may help, so they have to sign a form to confirm they received the letter.

Good luck.
F.



Jet Visuals
User currently offlineAKE0404AR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2535 posts, RR: 47
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3703 times:

Florian,

there is no need to send a "strong letter" to this company.
Delius Producing is trustworthy and they normally set up a contract (payment, publishing rights etc.) and I am pretty sure that they don't want to breach the own contract.

Vasco


User currently offlineGary2880 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3702 times:

I have already brought this up

http://www.airliners.net/discussions...ation_photography/read.main/198914

I know a few others who have not received payment along with myself, I kept getting 'oh yes it`ll be processed tomorrow', then nothing.

Unlikely to be paid now probably

no doubt others received 'please can you send the image now due to the deadline' sending off the image then not receiving anything


User currently offlineINNflight From Austria, joined Apr 2004, 3765 posts, RR: 60
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3693 times:

Ok Vasco, I guess you know better than I do wether they're trustworthy or not.

Quoting Gary2880 (Reply 4):
I know a few others who have not received payment along with myself, I kept getting 'oh yes it`ll be processed tomorrow', then nothing.

Still keep the option of a letter in mind.

Quoting Gary2880 (Reply 4):
'please can you send the image now due to the deadline' sending off the image then not receiving anything

I usually let clients send me a payment guarantee via email if they want the image in advance. Works with no problems.
Let the person who contacted you and negotiated the price sign the form if you want to.

cheers,
Florian



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User currently offlineFly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3140 posts, RR: 52
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3594 times:
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Good point, I remember receiving the book, but not sure about the payment.
When approximately did you receive the payment, Vasco?
Will have to write them again too...



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User currently offlineTin67 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 268 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3582 times:

An interesting mix of replies. I've basically written again and have asked if the photo has been used on one of the two mentioned pubilcations. If yes pay up, if no prove it by sending copies of the books in lieu of payment for the photo.

I don't like being mucked around so I will find out one way or another.

Martin


User currently offlineN178UA From United Arab Emirates, joined Jan 2001, 1655 posts, RR: 66
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3582 times:
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I have also sold 2 photos to Delius Berlin.

This person contacted me and agreed on terms and conditions.


Jacek Slaski
Picture Researcher
Delius Producing Berlin
Leibnizstr. 33
10625 Berlin
Deutschland

I will try to contact him again.

Wonder any one else is having problem with Jacek, usually the German company pay very ontime and needless to hassle.

Sam


User currently offlineTin67 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 268 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3559 times:

Quoting N178UA (Reply 8):
I have also sold 2 photos to Delius Berlin.

This person contacted me and agreed on terms and conditions.

Hi Sam,

I dealt with Jacek initially, but have been chasing Peter Delius since his message saying "payment will be made next week" recieved about 3 weeks ago.

There may be a logical reason for delays in payment, but communication has been poor. If they said we'll pay after publication and this date is..... I'd be happy. It's promises that they fail to keep that annoy me.

Martin


User currently offlineTin67 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 268 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3522 times:

Both "Airline Design" and "Luxury Airline Design" have been published as of 30th September and are orderable online. Even Amazon UK has these listed.

Martin


User currently offlineFly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3140 posts, RR: 52
Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3509 times:
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Quoting Tin67 (Reply 10):
Both "Airline Design" and "Luxury Airline Design" have been published as of 30th September and are orderable online.

Are these the names of the books? The one they used my photos for was called SmartPoster covering everything on aviation.
My last contact with them was in January, now I'll write them again.



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User currently offlineTin67 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 268 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3455 times:

Quoting Fly-K (Reply 11):
Are these the names of the books?

These are the books that are relavant to the photo requests that many recieved in and around July 05.

Regards
Martin


User currently offlineFly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3140 posts, RR: 52
Reply 13, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3447 times:
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Interesting. My request was much older (from 2004) and the last contact was in JAN 2005, I received the "SmartPoster" but not the money.


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User currently offlineTin67 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 268 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3366 times:

The publishing company is teNeues Publishing UK Ltd and there are some images listed in their online shop.

Airline Design

Luxury Airline Design

The book should be available soon so I hope to see a copy and see who's photos are there  stirthepot 

Martin


User currently offlineTin67 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 268 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3309 times:

I'm sorry to go about this, but I have the bit between my teeth on this one!

This gets better, there is least one photo listed on the publihers website from within a book that has been used without the photographers knowledge or permission.

I wonder how many more of our photgraphs are being used in these books without us knowing?


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