GPHOTO From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 823 posts, RR: 26 Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 3827 times:
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Yes, it is still soft in places. The problem lies with the original photo. I think it is more of a depth-of-field issue - the wingtip and engine seem sharp enough, but look at the numbers on the nose gear door or the cockpit window edges for example. They are very slightly out of focus, giving a soft appearance to parts of the image. I don't have any advice on how to fix it, I don't think you can. Any ideas anyone?
JumboJim747 From Australia, joined Oct 2004, 2462 posts, RR: 47 Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3787 times:
Quoting Spencer (Reply 4): What a shot though!! Really like that a lot, what a shame they didn't accept it. Strange.
Hey thanks Spencer i appreciate the kind words about the pic
I can live with the rejection that's just the way it is sometimes you win some you lose some .
But i can honestly say that i now can see the problems that could have gotten the rejection as Jim and Chris pointed out it could be a DOF issue may have to practice on that a bit more.
Appreciate the help from you all.
Glennstewart From Australia, joined Jun 2003, 1124 posts, RR: 55 Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3664 times:
Hi there mate.... long time!
Sometimes soft shots can't be fixed. The original has to be of good enough quality and fairly wide depth of field in order to be able to be sharpened.
Many a time I'll see a shot uploaded which is so sharp in the centre, that the jaggies are starting to occur, whilst either end is soft. Sometimes this is the lens quality, sometimes the aperture or sometimes simply not panning correctly or quickly enough.... nevertheless, point is, if you can't sharpen the whole image as to have the aircraft crisp (not jagged), then don't bother uploading. Surely there's another shot worth uploading?
Respected users.... If my replies are useful, then by all means...
Quoting Fergulmcc (Reply 11): Cracking shot Alan, is there another one in the sequence?
Thanks ferg and to answer the question there is more in the sequesnce but the shot i was after was the last one in that sequence as the engines are in the right location.
The others are of the full aircraft and i could upload that but it wasn't what i wanted at the time .
Appreciate the help and the support from you guys.
Fergulmcc From Ireland, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 54 Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3633 times:
Quoting JumboJim747 (Reply 12): Thanks ferg and to answer the question there is more in the sequesnce but the shot i was after was the last one in that sequence as the engines are in the right location.
I know the feeling Alan, it's always the one you like the best that has something wrong with it, or a little harder to work on. Cracker all the same, nice to see a different motive on this. Well done
Fergulmcc From Ireland, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 54 Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3585 times:
Quoting JumboJim747 (Reply 14): Thanks to Mick Bajcar for the help in re editing the shot with a slightly different crop .
I have uploaded it again and want your opinions on it now.
Couldn't have done it better myself, an excellent process Mick, well done. I would agree with Simon that there are a few jaggies on the top of the titles, but still a good version. It is sometimes better when there is a little softness to zoom out if you like, or crop bigger and re-size down to hide some of the faults.
Spot on ferg sometimes you take a risk cropping too close but you are right on that point i always try to get most of the plane in the frame but i wasn't planning on this sort of crop when i shot the picture.
Anyways again thanks to you all and Mick for his assistance
Dendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1630 posts, RR: 63 Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3384 times:
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Quoting Fergulmcc (Reply 21): Mick how did you get that shot looking so nice, what's the secret mate, tell me more
There is no doubt about it that the extreme of the nose is a touch soft, due as said by others to the depth of field and this was worsened by the tight crop. The tight crop looked as good a composition to my eye, just different to the way it ended up. By cropping less the softness of the nose is already less of a problem.
I then opened the image in the lightness channel in LAB mode which gives a black and white image. The contrast of this image was a bit low so I boosted it using levels. A more contrasty image always gives the illusion of being sharper. However a more contrasty image also responds better to sharpening. It is also possible to sharpen a touch more without jaggies in LAB mode than in RGB. I then selected the sky using the magic wand, selected the inverse and sharpened using smart sharpen, I think 140% at 0.3 and tweaked it to get the best sharpness without jaggies. As pointed out by others, they are there around the letters on Atlas, but only just. I tried a bit of selective sharpening around the outline of the nose but immediately jaggies appeared so that was as far as it would go.
The image was then converted back to RGB and the levels tweaked as it had gone a touch dark due to the increase in contrast.
So pleased for Alan that it made it. It is a lovely photograph.