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Nikon D70 Or Canon Rebel For X-mas  
User currently offlineDevil505x From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 232 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 10 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 6339 times:

I was wondering if anyone could help me out. My girlfriend wants to buy me a new camera for Christmas and I have it narrowed it down to the Nikon D70 and the Canon Digital Rebel (not sure of exact model). I would appreciate anyone's opinion on these cameras and what I should go with. I am leaning towards the Nikon. I would also like people's opinions on lenses for the D70

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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6327 times:

I am Nikon guy SO my opinion will be self serving. If you get the D70 you have to get the 80-200 2.8. It is an awesome lens. Focuses SO fast it gives you SO much flexibility and it's razor sharp. I also use the 80-400VR which I think is a good lens. Whatever you get best of luck and hope to see some pics of yours here!  airplane 

User currently offlineTWAMD-80 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1006 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6326 times:

Quoting Devil505x (Thread starter):
My girlfriend wants to buy me a new camera for Christmas

I need to find a girl that will be that generous to me  Wink I think that both are pretty good cameras, but look at what lenses you'll buy when you decide. If you like Canon's line then go with the Rebel, the same if you like Nikon's.

Tim



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User currently offlineGmonney From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2159 posts, RR: 20
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 6305 times:

I have been exposed to both... oh and does your girlfriend have a sister??? Joking... other wise my gf will cut my BA!!S off!

Anyway, I think that in the past, canon has "claimed" to have better lenses and maybe with "L" glass they are. I think that the nikkor lense are pretty good. Get out and feel them and maybe look for a kit that is already together... that will get you going, and if you are on a budget get a good 70-300is zoom lense... if you go canon and can afford the 70-300 IS you will be off to a good start... try a gig flash card as well... oh and an extra battery

Grant



Drive it like you stole it!
User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6302 times:

I have both and they are great [in my case the problem are not the cameras, is the photographer] Sad

Check @ www.dpreview.com and make your own choice based in your budget. I bet that if you choose one or the other, the results will be great [and quite similar].


User currently offlineDevil505x From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 232 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6289 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 1):
If you get the D70 you have to get the 80-200 2.8.

From any specific company?

Quoting TWAMD-80 (Reply 2):
I need to find a girl that will be that generous to me

Oh and this past summer SHE TOOK ME to SXM! Hey she's the breadwinner in this relationship.

Thanks for all the help!


User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6276 times:

Quoting Devil505x (Reply 5):
From any specific company?

Best place to get any equipment is the small independent camera store just around the corner.
Support, service, expertise, etc. are all right there. They may cost a few dollars more than some mega warehouse over the internet where you're a number only and served by illegal immigrants or cheap labour from India or China but you get a lot for that and after shipping cost is added you may actually be cheaper buying local (certainly if you ever need service).



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6274 times:

Quoting Devil505x (Reply 5):
From any specific company?

Nikkor..

http://www.nikonusa.com/template.php?cat=1&grp=5&productNr=1986


User currently offlineLinco22 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1380 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 6252 times:

Quoting Devil505x (Thread starter):
My girlfriend wants to buy me a new camera for Christmas

HA HA! I tried that one, though it was the battery grip because i'm accessorising for my trips next year. I cant tell you what her answer to that was......

Colin


User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 6240 times:

Quoting Gmonney (Reply 3):
I think that in the past, canon has "claimed" to have better lenses

Well, they would do that wouldn't they?
Can't see Canon claiming their lenses are actually inferior to Nikon but buy them anyway because we're such nice guys Big grin



I wish I were flying
User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 28
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 6235 times:

Both are good cameras. I prefer the feel of the D70 in the hand, but that is a personal thing.

If you can, try both before you decide.



Nikon D700, Nikkor 80-400, Fuji X Pro 1, Fujinon 35 f/1.4, Fujinon 18 f/2
User currently offlineKukkudrill From Malta, joined Dec 2004, 1123 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6157 times:

I've also been weighing up the Nikon D70 and the Canon 350D/Rebel XT. I haven't any experience with either of them, but I'm inclined towards the Canon because:

-- it seems to be slightly less noisy, not least because its minimum ISO is 100 as compared to 200 for the Nikon, and my current camera has given me a total aversion to noise
-- it has a slightly higher resolution (8 mp as opposed to 6), which can come in handy for making large prints or selling photos to high-spec buyers
-- where long zooms are concerned, the Canon 100-400L focuses faster than the Nikon 80-400 -- a significant consideration for airshows.

I wonder what the experienced guys think about these points.



Make the most of the available light ... a lesson of photography that applies to life
User currently offlineJay767 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 223 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6148 times:

Personally I would go with sigma Ex Glass,I own both sigma EX and canon L and the sigma is just as good if not better for less money,the sigma 70-200 EX would be a great lens on either the nikon or the canon,go sigma Ex why pay more than you have to. Big grin


User currently offlineDevil505x From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 232 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 6102 times:

And could anyone tell me if the nikon D50 would be just as good. I am mainly going to use the camera for airplane pictures that I hope to post on here and all the other stuff in life you take pictures of. If I was going to get the D50 I figure the difference in cost could go to a better lense.

User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 14, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6084 times:

D50 focusses slower and has a smaller viewfinder (though still larger than the Canon).
Its smaller weight might also make it more awkward to use with long heavy lenses.



I wish I were flying
User currently offlineFsgay From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6081 times:

I very much like the ergonomics of the D70 over either of the Digital Rebels, but I'd probably go with one of the Canons, because of the glass. The absolute top-of-the-line Canon and Nikon glass is going to be very similar, but I believe that Canon has a significant edge in the middle of the price range (I'd consider this to be $300 to $1000). Specifically, the vast majority of equipment used on this site seems to be a medium to long telephoto zoom. The 70-200 f/4L (plus maybe the 1.4X teleconverter) is an absolutely fantastic lens, and is unmatched my anything in the AF-Nikkor line, in terms of the combination of features, quality, and price. In fact, this lens basically lives on my camera now, as I don't think I've used anything else to take aviation pics since I bought it. Ultimately, you'll probably upgrade your camera body if you get one of the Digital Rebels, as they don't have the features of Canon's semi-pro line, but its really the glass, and the photographer that make the picture what it is.


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User currently offlineINNflight From Switzerland, joined Apr 2004, 3766 posts, RR: 59
Reply 16, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6043 times:

It's all about your budget for lenses and what standard of quality you would like to have.

If you want more than an average 70-300 lens but rather high quality glass for less money, Canon is the way to go. Their L lenses are less expensive compared to the top-notch Nikkor stuff.



Jet Visuals
User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 28
Reply 17, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6040 times:

Beer comes in a glass, cameras have lenses.

To refer to "glass" in a photography context is a silly affectation.

I'll have a lens of Guinness, please ...



Nikon D700, Nikkor 80-400, Fuji X Pro 1, Fujinon 35 f/1.4, Fujinon 18 f/2
User currently offlineINNflight From Switzerland, joined Apr 2004, 3766 posts, RR: 59
Reply 18, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6035 times:

Quoting Viv (Reply 17):
Beer comes in a glass, cameras have lenses.

Didn't want to have the term lens in 3 sentences four times, my English teacher wouldn't like that.  angel 



Jet Visuals
User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 28
Reply 19, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6033 times:

Quoting INNflight (Reply 18):
Didn't want to have the term lens in 3 sentences four times

Well, as long as you don't lose your bottle!



Nikon D700, Nikkor 80-400, Fuji X Pro 1, Fujinon 35 f/1.4, Fujinon 18 f/2
User currently offlineDevil505x From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 232 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 6008 times:

Quoting INNflight (Reply 16):
and what standard of quality you would like to have.

Well I want to have my pictures on this site. Is it safe to say I could accomplish this with a D50 as fairly good photographer.

Quoting Viv (Reply 17):
Beer comes in a glass, cameras have lenses

Or a can either way you are getting beer and thats what really matters!


User currently offlineMikephotos From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2923 posts, RR: 54
Reply 21, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 5986 times:

Quoting Viv (Reply 17):
To refer to "glass" in a photography context is a silly affectation.

Lenses are made of glass. So, if you have a 70-200/f2.8 you've got 2.8 glass  Wink "glass" is just fine in my book. To keep it on topic, go for the D70s!

Mike


User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 28
Reply 22, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 5962 times:

Quoting Mikephotos (Reply 21):
Lenses are made of glass.

Nope. They are made of glass, plastic, metal, rubber, etc.

That's like saying a car is made of steel, so let's call it "a steel"!



Nikon D700, Nikkor 80-400, Fuji X Pro 1, Fujinon 35 f/1.4, Fujinon 18 f/2
User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 23, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 5937 times:

he can't help it, he's from Ireland  Smile

Photographers worldwide talk about "glass" when they talk about lenses.
It's as good a word as "lens" since technically you're not using a lens at all, a lens being a single piece of glass ground and polished to specifications to change an optical path through diffraction, not the entire assembly of multiple such pieces of glass and the supporting structure  Smile



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User currently offlineMikephotos From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2923 posts, RR: 54
Reply 24, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 5930 times:

Quoting Viv (Reply 22):
That's like saying a car is made of steel, so let's call it "a steel"!

Call it what you like but it'll always be "glass" to me.

Mike


25 Jwenting : Ah, insults now from the Irish connection. So now anyone who doesn't conform to your idea of correct vocabulary is an imposter?
26 TACAA320 : Go for the Canon 350D and the EF 75-300 III USM lens. It's great!
27 SEAchaz : If I had to do it again I'd probably lean towards Canon, mainly for the lens choices others have mentioned. Nikon doesn't have a fast focusing long te
28 Dehowie : At the end of the day its the glass that will make the difference with the budget it sounds like you have. So therefor i'd hunt around work out what i
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