Fiveholer From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1009 posts, RR: 12 Posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 5768 times:
Hey guys,
I just got a couple of badinfo rejects. Which is basically my most hated one. Why? Because with out a message, you have no idea where you screwed up.
Anyway, I took these at the Tulsa Air and Space Museum which is on airport property. Here are the shots and the info I uploaded them with.
Spartan13 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 207 posts, RR: 6 Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 5740 times:
Danny I really like that angle on the Tomcat.
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Fiveholer From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1009 posts, RR: 12 Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 5693 times:
Fiveholer From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1009 posts, RR: 12 Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 5688 times:
The reg I got for the Tomcat was what I found for it digging around the site. I had done google searches as well. It was a tough one to find. What other problems MAY I have with the shot? Also, what is buno? There was no civil reg on the Tomcat.
Quoting Viv (Reply 9): For me, the Tomcat is "bad motive" because of the person in the shot.
If anything that would be NOA_people. The plane is unobstructed so no NOA_motiv here.
As for the info. For the Tomcat the reg is painted on the rear end of the acft (not visible in your shot), at least I think so.
The helicopter I dont know. I leave shots where I am not sure about this to the more experienced screeners.
Navy and Marine Corps aircraft are procured by the Navy, so they use Navy Bureau Numbers. A Bureau Number is assigned to an aircraft when it is initially ordered, not when it is actually delivered to the Navy.
As to the Modex, carrier-based fighter squadrons typically have three-digit side numbers 1XX 2XX, or 3XX. Though the 1, 2, or 3, is not always included, but is rare. Usually, the squadron CO's plane is numbered 101 or 201, etc, the executive officer's plane 102 or 202, etc, and subsequent planes numbered in order of pilot seniority. 100, 200, or 300 is used to represent the CAG's (Commander of Air Group) plane.
LeanOfPeak From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 509 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks ago) and read 5525 times:
The civil reg for the Bell (Which is correct) means it'll need to be WARBIRD instead of MILITARY and Untitled instead of USA - Navy.
The F-14 has a little bit of info-swapping going on. The Bureau Number is considered to be the Reg. AJ-101 is the Code. The CN is the manufacturer's serial number, 616/D-21, not the BuNo. And it's an F-14D.
Fiveholer From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1009 posts, RR: 12 Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks ago) and read 5522 times:
Ok, thanks a lot guys! I realize now how I should have uploaded the Bell with WARBIRD. So, for the F14, what exactly is the reg? I realize there is a person in the shot, but so is there in a shot that I have from a week ago, also standing right behind an aircraft. So if I get the correct reg. I will risk a rejection on the F14 again. Thanks for the help guys.
JeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 53 Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4246 times:
With F-14A P&W TF-30-P-414A enginges? Look again. Strange, those are "A" model engines, I've never seen a "D" with downgraded TF-30's. Even the F-14B's had the GE F-110-GE-400's.
I think Danny may have the wrong BuNo, or the one painted on the side is false.
If this is 164341, some interesting info on it. On Nov. 6, 2002 this F-14 took off from NAS Fallon with a VIP in the back seat - a Naval officer from the cruiser Anzio who was on "FAM Hop". In flight, when the pilot pulled a "negative 1g," the gravity force moved him off his seat. He reached down to reposition himself and accidentally pulled the ejection lever. The cockpit canopy flew off and out went the VIP. The ejection seat automatically opened his chute. He landed safely in the desert and was "rescued". The Pilot had a windy return to base.
LeanOfPeak From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 509 posts, RR: 1 Reply 19, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1730 times:
JeffM, you are exactly right (That's what I get for taking the BuNo given at face value). It's not 164341. It IS an F-14A, 161598 being the identity that seems to hold up to scrutiny (That's the BuNo, which is what goes in the reg field unless 164341 was actually painted on the aircraft). Code AJ-101, CN 457.
Viv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3106 posts, RR: 32 Reply 20, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1717 times:
Quoting JeffM (Reply 18): On Nov. 6, 2002 this F-14 took off from NAS Fallon with a VIP in the back seat - a Naval officer from the cruiser Anzio who was on "FAM Hop". In flight, when the pilot pulled a "negative 1g," the gravity force moved him off his seat. He reached down to reposition himself and accidentally pulled the ejection lever. The cockpit canopy flew off and out went the VIP. The ejection seat automatically opened his chute. He landed safely in the desert and was "rescued". The Pilot had a windy return to base.
What a story! Was he not briefed "don't touch yellow stripey thingies"?
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JeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 53 Reply 21, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1697 times:
Quoting Viv (Reply 20): What a story! Was he not briefed "don't touch yellow stripey thingies"?
LOL, yea, he was briefed...but unless you have ever experienced -1g or more, it's hard to describe. Reaching down is a reflex, and the handle is very convenient, I found it easier (safer) to put my hands up on the canopy and push down.
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