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Full-size UAVs Allowed?  
User currently offlineSkymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2860 times:

Question - are pictures of full-size UAVs such as the General Atomics RQ-1 Predator (see link)

http://www.airteamimages.com/display.php?phtID=18082

allowed on the DB, or is it manned a/c only - FWIW Predators are of a similar size to a Cessna single and have "real aircraft" USAF serial numbers. There are a couple of Predator images on the DB but they're from a while ago so I'm not sure of current policy.

TIA,
Andy

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User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 28
Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2849 times:

Unmanned air vehicle, aircraft is.

UAV, wave of the future is.

Disagree, screeners may.

May The Force be with you!



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User currently offlineF4wso From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 974 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2805 times:

The Aviation Nation airshow at Nellis this year was the billed as the first aerial demonstration at a public airshow of the Predator. During the show on Saturday (I was photographing at McCarran on Sunday) the Predator was orbiting above providing aerial images shown to the crowd on the big screens at either end of the show line. After the Thunderbirds performed, a Predator made a simulated Hellfire rocket attack. I thought it ironic that the Thunderbirds normally are the finale of an airshow, but, at their homecoming performance, they were followed by the unmanned RQ-1. Could it be a harbinger of things to come?
Gary
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User currently offlineTZ From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2003, 1085 posts, RR: 53
Reply 3, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2752 times:
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Unfortunately UAVs are not allowed.

TZ



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User currently offlineSulman From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2035 posts, RR: 32
Reply 4, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2719 times:

Perhaps that should be reviewed. There's no restriction on unmanned balloons.


James



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User currently offlineCorey07850 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2527 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2694 times:

Quoting Tamsin (Reply 3):
Unfortunately UAVs are not allowed.

Oh?


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User currently offlineTFSPhoto From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2678 times:

Quoting Corey07850 (Reply 5):
Quoting Tamsin (Reply 3):
Unfortunately UAVs are not allowed.


Oh?

Dont know what to say to that one..

Lew


User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 7, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2620 times:

They are aircraft, and should be allowed into the database. And it looks they already have been.

Harry



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User currently offlineEadster From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2216 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2567 times:

Quoting TFSPhoto (Reply 6):
Dont know what to say to that one..

Me neither....  irked 


User currently offlineA346Dude From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 1284 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2535 times:

Quoting Tamsin (Reply 3):
Unfortunately UAVs are not allowed.

If it's unfortunate, perhaps we should look at changing the rules? I'm not a huge fan of UAV's, but if others want to see them, I think they should be allowed in.



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User currently offlineSkymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2516 times:

Quoting Tamsin (Reply 3):
Unfortunately UAVs are not allowed

Then there are three images that have to be removed from the database Tamsin - see above.

Andy


User currently offlineCorey07850 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2527 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2483 times:

Quoting Skymonster (Reply 12):
Then there are three images that have to be removed from the database Tamsin - see above.

There are also numerous pictures of the Northrup Global Hawk in the database as well that would need to be removed


User currently offlineTZ From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2003, 1085 posts, RR: 53
Reply 12, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2482 times:
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UAVs are not permitted into the database. This issue has long been a hot topic of debate within the crew, with some UAVs closely resembling conventional aircraft while others are more akin to radio-controlled scale models or even guided missiles.

In order to draw a very clear line in the sand and remove any ambiguity, the rule is that no UAVs are allowed to enter the database.

Having discussed with Johan, we cannot recall exactly what date this decision became policy. Therefore all existing images should remain. As always, photos are judged by the contemporary standards at the time of screening. Quite obviously it would be unfair to retrospectively apply a rule to previously accepted images. Only in absolutely exceptional circumstances are images retrospectively judged (if they cause significant offence, etc). This is not such a situation.

So, in summary, those in the db will stay. No further UAVs will be accepted. If you notice one which sneaked into the db by mistake, just email the screeners and we'll take care of that. We're not always perfect!  Wink

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