Rejected for quality and centering. I can understand the centering* and can simply re-crop it. However, what can I do about the quality? Any suggestions for improvements, or is this photo a lost cause?
Fergulmcc From Ireland, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 54 Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2687 times:
What camera are you using and what are your settings.
First and foremost set your camera on max settings, i.e. large and fine. Try and fill the frame with the subject so that whan you down size the quality will be better. The two you have posted, the quality isn't there I'm afraid. Also when you sharpen the photo are you doing the sky as well? Have a look at these workflows, they might help you out. http://www.rockymountainavphotos.com/Kyle/Workflows/Workflows.htm
Jid has a good one aswell, but I don't have the link to it,
Sulman From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2032 posts, RR: 34 Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2677 times:
The subject looks like it was just too far away. The gear's up and there are only slats and a little flap visible, so I assume this is well into the climb. It's pushed the optics, air quality, and camera shake well beyond getting something salvageable. The tail is slightly blurred, and the rest of the aircraft lacks definition.
Try getting closer and working on an easier target, like an approach shot. This will give you a good base to work from. Aim to have the subject fill the frame when you shoot.
I only had two shots like this accepted (at full focal length, far off, on a very clear morning) from when I first started uploading, and I didn't really know what I was doing, and believe me there were some real howlers in that batch.
D L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 10803 posts, RR: 52 Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2672 times:
Quoting Fergulmcc (Reply 2): What camera are you using and what are your settings.
The settings were ISO 200, 1/3200 shutter, f/5.0 aperture, and zoomed to 200mm.
This is in the NEF mode. If you've got 5MB to spare, I can show you the NEF too. I'll take a lok at those workflows, although I have to admit i'm still a CS2 novice.
About the sharpening, yes, I sharpened the whole shot. I used CS2's NEF loader to do luminance smoothing to knock out the noise in the sky. Is there anything specific about the quality that I can correct?
I think I was shooting aperture mode that day. Most of the shots in that batch were of planes on rotation where the lighting wasn't as strong, so I needed a wider aperture to keep the shutter speed high enough. (Heat distortion ruined all of them regardless.) I grabbed this shot on rotation, and didn't have time to change the settings as it went overhead.
Fergulmcc From Ireland, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 54 Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2642 times:
Quoting D L X (Reply 6): I'll take a lok at those workflows, although I have to admit i'm still a CS2 novice.
Likewise but my workflow will still work well in CS2. I have both elements and CS2 and you should be ok. Use the magic wand set up and don't sharpen the sky. You'll find it better.
If you are getting bogged down with heat haze then don't shoot in mid sun, try early morning or late afternoon. Our Aussie friends have the same problem and they generaly don't shoot in mid sun, it's a photo killer!
Clickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9550 posts, RR: 70 Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2638 times:
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just practive on being smooth when panning, but 1/500 will be fast enough you take care of any small shakes you might have...After 3 or 4 triple venti lattes I shake like a wet cold dog and my pics are okay.
Jay767 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 223 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2558 times:
I agree with royal,that quick of a shutter speed is completely overboard,1/500 is more than enough to get a clear shot,even if you have shake problems you still won't need more than 1/750 or 1/1000 at the very most.
AviatorTJ From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1838 posts, RR: 7 Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2517 times:
This last revision looks a million times better than the previous two. I see a few things that can be improved upon before you try it in the queue again. Take a look at the right side of the stabilizer, it has somewhat of a halo around it. I'm guessing that came from a little over usage of the shadow/highlight feature. The default setting for that will make the preview look alright, but normally, the trick is done around 10%.
Also, the "Delta" titles on the forward fuselage appear to be oversharpened. I see a few jaggies around that neighborhood which is a giveaway. Your photo is getting much better, and these little things are easy to fix. Hope to see some uploads soon.
Fergulmcc From Ireland, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 54 Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2465 times:
Quoting D L X (Reply 11): Fergul, I tried your workflow on the original NEF and got this result. What do you guys think?
A lot better Damon but there is grain at the back of the engines but that mey be die to you being too far away, however a very good attempt at a different processing. The sky looks a lot better, as the saying goes, why sharpen the sky it doesn't need to be sharp.
I shot that in aperture priority, F8 or F9. Sun behind me. Holding the camera in my hand. Shoot in sunny conditions, pick the proper aperture and let the camera pick the shutter speed.
Also, I looked at the pic you posted. Interesting angle. I would try to keep it a little more simple to get your first few pics accepted. Try some gate shots, if you can get to a boneyard. It is so great to spot at places like IGM. In addition you can spend long periods of time in locations and shoot. This was my first pic accepted here.
Once you get some pics in the DB then your confidence will rise and you can tackle some rotations. If you want to try those angles keep it simple and try to zoom in a little more. I was at JFK and losing light one afternoon and tried some of those shots. I let the plane go by me a bit and used the same 200MM lens and I think F10 and got this result.