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Am I Getting Better :)  
User currently offlineShaggy From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 111 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1575 times:

Hi all,

Well I invested in an Adobe CS book to help me with my photography, that and the help of Paul M I seem to be progressing (I hope) Attached is a piccie of 4X-ELD as it overflew me at 8000ft.

I have attached the image that without Paul's or the Books help I would have been happy with. then below is the edited version now I no a little about Photoshop.

I think I have improved from a month or so ago. Any further tips on the picture. I know its not good enough to be submitted but anything you can add would be great.

Lee

http://www.seatcupra.net/shaggy/4X-ELD1

http://www.seatcupra.net/shaggy/4X-ELD

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User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 3853 posts, RR: 57
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1556 times:

Well, I'm not sure if you can, but I'd say try and get closer next time. This looks like baddistance to me.


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User currently offlineShaggy From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1545 times:

I could probably zoom in closer using Photoshop but do you mean with the camera? If so I was at full zoom.

Other than that is it ok?

User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1536 times:

You need a contrail in most instances for this to be acceptable. Just as I stated in the other thread....

http://www.airliners.net/discussions...ation_photography/read.main/213174

User currently offlineShaggy From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1533 times:

Yep yep I know that. My question was though baring in mind that I am a complete Nub when it comes to photoshop am I going down the correct path in terms of making the shot look better.  Smile

User currently offlinePsyops From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1516 times:

Lee;

I understand your question - I am in a similar boat, relatively new and trying to improve each day/outing.

Given that this isn't for uploading but for practice, it would seem to me that you have done the right things:
- dust spots removed
- levels adjusted with good contrast
- and sharpened.

I am on my "kitchen" monitor which isn't that great - you didn't use the shadows/highlight tool? I can't see a halo on my screen.

You could also center the aircraft in the frame - it seems a bit high and left. Using the grid helps here (viewgrid).

Pete

User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1512 times:

Oh ok, sorry... Yes looks a lot better.

User currently offlineShaggy From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1504 times:

Excellent, gotcha on the centering. I also need to make the sky not look so grainy. My mentor  Wink Paul has advised me how.

User currently offlineMartin21 From Netherlands, joined Aug 2001, 346 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1493 times:

Looks very good.
Only one thing, the edges of the photo are darker than
the center (caused by a wide apeture).
You can correct this with the feather function.
Good luck

Martin21


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User currently offlineShaggy From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1460 times:

Thanks Martin, another tip logged  Smile

User currently offlineAirimages From Switzerland, joined Feb 2005, 117 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1420 times:
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Wow, it looks very good. What did you do exactly with photoshop?

Jerome

User currently offlineGBOAB From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 366 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1416 times:

Hi Lee

If you are using the 50-500 lens I am surprised you haven't been able to get a closer view
The following photos are the original & cropped versions of of PIA 747 over my house at the same height of 8000ft using my 100-400 lens
Try cropping around the aircraft and posting a photo so that we can see the quality

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v286/GBOAG/PIA747A.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v286/GBOAG/PIA747B.jpg

Cheers

Ian

[Edited 2005-12-28 20:11:28]


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User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9459 posts, RR: 72
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1410 times:
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Not quite full-frame Big grin

User currently offlineShaggy From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1407 times:

Ian,

It was probably higher than 8k, by the time I left the SBS-1 it was 6 miles away in a climb from 7500ft so i could well have been 9000 - 10000ft by the time i took the shots.

But I will post a piccy of it cropped in 2 mins

User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 51
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1405 times:


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Go4it. You only live once.  Wink

User currently offlineShaggy From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1399 times:

Ian,

this is the unedited cropped version. My camera skills are pretty useless still at the moment (need to switch auto mode off) but a few chaps on here have been giving me tips so I am improving. the purpose of this thread was just to get an idea if my photoshop skills had gotten better.

Hopefully will get to Gatwick tomorrow to practice on aircraft a little closer to the floor.

http://www.seatcupra.net/shaggy/test.jpg

User currently offlineShaggy From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1393 times:

Quoting Airimages (Reply 10):
Wow, it looks very good. What did you do exactly with photoshop?

Jerome

Jerome,

All I done was do away with the dust spots, then darkened the background, then sharpened the edges and then used the unsharp mask to make it look better, errr not really sure what that tool does but it made it look better, trust me on that one  Smile

User currently offlineAirimages From Switzerland, joined Feb 2005, 117 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1381 times:
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Thank you, I have to try it with a shot I have taken.

User currently offlineGBOAB From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 366 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1370 times:

Lee

The cropped image looks very grainy
what ISO setting do you have your camera set to?

Ian


Concorde's gone but not forgotten
User currently offlineShaggy From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1342 times:

Dunno Ian,

It was on Auto, which I know is bad, but I have not managed to get my head around camera settings yet. There are a couple of D70 books avialable and I will try and get one from the London Camera Exchange on Friday when I go back to work.

User currently offlineGBOAB From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 366 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1330 times:

Lee

If you are using photoshop, at the top of the screen select window and from the list select file browser ,the EXIF data taken from the camera should be shown on the left hand side

Hope this helps
Ian

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v286/GBOAG/desktop.jpg


Concorde's gone but not forgotten
User currently offlineShaggy From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1314 times:

Nope, does not tell me. Cant see anything for ISO

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