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User currently offlineFlyfisher1976 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 804 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3455 times:
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I need some general opinions on this shot...will it make it through the queue?
If not, what could I do to improve it? I don't have a lot of experience editing shots like this. I have the original file in raw.
Thanks in advance.

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...dy/2005_01_10_IMG_2541_BOS_UNK.jpg

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User currently offlineLinco22 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1380 posts, RR: 16
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3442 times:

First opinions are that all the light is in the top half of the frame....Its a nice shot dont get me wrong but its a bit distracting having nothing in the lower half. The buildings seem a little grainy, perhaps over sharpened a little. I dont have any experience editing shots like this or working with many so others might be able to help more.

Regards
Colin


User currently offlineIngemarE From Sweden, joined Mar 2005, 285 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3425 times:

In this case, if I were you, I'd take my chances with a "bad-centered" crop.
That pitch black bottom-part of the picture does nothing to the pic as a whole. If you see what I mean?  scratchchin 

As a viewer, I'd prefer to see a little more of the streaks of light.  thumbsup 



In thrust I trust.
User currently offlineFlyfisher1976 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 804 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3415 times:
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Thanks for the quick replies...good point...I will pull it from the queue..
How about either of these?

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/743/img25089dj.jpg

Or...

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/6836/img2511edit1lc.jpg

I would like to submit one or both...do they need anything?
Thanks again!


User currently offlineChrisH From Sweden, joined Jul 2004, 1136 posts, RR: 16
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3411 times:

The second shot there is brilliant. I would darken it slightly more and maybe reduce noise. Very cool, which airport is this?


what seems to be the officer, problem?
User currently offlineFlyfisher1976 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 804 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3407 times:
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Quoting ChrisH (Reply 4):
The second shot there is brilliant.

Thanks!

Quoting ChrisH (Reply 4):
Very cool, which airport is this?

This is Boston Logan Airport shot from the 27 approach.

Quoting ChrisH (Reply 4):
I would darken it slightly more and maybe reduce noise.

I don't really see the noise...maybe its this monitor. Any other opinions?


User currently offlineDendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1648 posts, RR: 62
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3405 times:
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I think it has all been said about your first photo.
The rule of thirds is a good guide and there is far too much dark at the bottom. The top one of the other two you asked for comments on is the same, but in reverse, far too much blank sky. That would make a very nice long thin photo, but not for this site due to the size constraints that are imposed on us.
The last one I really like, but as Chris said, it needs to be a bit darker, particularly above the waterline....below it it is spot on. I am sure Photoshop could work some magic there ! The object in the water is less distracting than in the one above too. That would be a good point to consider if you go to try again
I guess the airport is Logan ?
Mick Bajcar


User currently offlineMartin21 From Netherlands, joined Aug 2001, 347 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3404 times:

I think its Boston ?

Like the last 2 picts, they are really great !
But I agree with ChrisH about the darkness. Also check the sharpness of your photo's. I hope these 2 are not the originals because the quality is to low. And the light lines are not straight, IMO it looks like the camera was (a bit) shaking during exposure ?!

Martin21



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User currently offlineSA006 From South Africa, joined Sep 2003, 1883 posts, RR: 55
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3397 times:

Hi there.

The first shot will probably get NOA_Motiv due to the object in the foreground being a bit distracting.

The second photo is great though! I think there's a bit of grain but not enough to cause a grain rejection IMO. Great shot , give it a go.

-SA006  wave 



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User currently offlineFlyfisher1976 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 804 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3397 times:
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Quoting Dendrobatid (Reply 6):
The last one I really like, but as Chris said, it needs to be a bit darker, particularly above the waterline....below it it is spot on. I am sure Photoshop could work some magic there ! The object in the water is less distracting than in the one above too. That would be a good point to consider if you go to try again
I guess the airport is Logan ?
Mick Bajcar

Thanks Mick...Would this be done with some sort of layer or masking? Would shadow/highlight help?

Quoting Martin21 (Reply 7):
I hope these 2 are not the originals because the quality is to low. And the light lines are not straight, IMO it looks like the camera was (a bit) shaking during exposure ?!

Definetly no camera shake involved. The camera was mounted on a very sturdy tripod and triggered with a remote switch. Does anyone else agree with this opinion? If so, maybe some adjustment is required in this area.
Thanks!


User currently offlineMartin21 From Netherlands, joined Aug 2001, 347 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3389 times:

Quoting Flyfisher1976 (Reply 9):
Definetly no camera shake involved. The camera was mounted on a very sturdy tripod and triggered with a remote switch.

I believe you when you say that the camera didn't move, so that is out of the question. But It's still the fact that the lines drawn by the aircraft lights have a real weird pattern. I think it happened during exposure. Any one to explain this ?

Martin21



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User currently offlineDendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1648 posts, RR: 62
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3387 times:
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I don't see a problem with the grain either.
The straight waterline should make this an easy image to work on.
As a point of interest regarding the noise....
There is a tendency to think...it is dark, therefore increase the ISO.
This is the wrong course of action and in fact the ISO should be lowered, probably to its minimum. The camera is on a tripod so camera shake is not a problem.
The dark areas are prone to noise and lowering teh ISO helps to minimise this.
Flyfisher....check your inbox for an off forum message from me
Mick Bajcar


User currently offlineChrisH From Sweden, joined Jul 2004, 1136 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3352 times:

I had a quick go, hope you dont mind. This is how I would edit it if the pic were mine, but it's all down to taste. Put a black border around it to get better feel of contrast.

http://www.stockholm.bonet.se/chris_h/img2511.jpg



what seems to be the officer, problem?
User currently offlineFlyfisher1976 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 804 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 3276 times:
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Thanks for taking the time to help me with these shots. Both Chris and Mick seem to think that this shot looks better darker. I would frame this shot in the lighter version to put on my wall. However, since the general concensus for acceptance here is the darker version, I will go with that. Mick also pointed out that this shot is loaded up with dustspots. I guess I missed this step in the workflow. I have my work cut out for me. Thanks for all the help!
JD


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