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Fiveholer From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1009 posts, RR: 12
Posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2389 times:

I just got this email this morning from apparently the pilot and owner of this Hawker. He did not leave his name, but he is not happy that there is a photo of him and his plane on the internet for sale without his permission. I know this has been discussed before. Something about being public property, free domain, etc. The shot WAS taken from Tulsa Airport Authority property, the designated observation lot. Am I still in the clear and can tell him to piss off? Nicely of course! Big grin

Here is the email:

Hello...

Not sure who I need to talk to here...but your e-mail came up first....

I am very suprised to find pictures of my airplanes with me flying them for sale on the internet....!!!

How is this legal?

I am not very happy to have this going on with out my knowledge and consent.

----------------------------------------------------------
Message was sent using the mail interface on Airliners.net
http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?id=810598

To uphold the good reputation of the photographer
community, please try to reply to photo usage requests.

Thanks!
Danny

Bring back Bethune!

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INNflight From Austria, joined Apr 2004, 3765 posts, RR: 62
Reply 1, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2383 times:

You could tell him that there's no problem with your photo being online here, even if it is his aircraft, but you could also tell him that you will pull it from the site if you get the chance to fly with him once in his little Hawker... Smile

Oh, and why not just cancel the "buy a print" option?

Jet Visuals

Javibi From Spain, joined Oct 2004, 1370 posts, RR: 46
Reply 2, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2379 times:

Quoting Fiveholer (Thread starter):
He did not leave his name

Do not even care to answer...

j

"Be prepared to engage in constructive debate". Are YOU prepared?

Mygind66 From Spain, joined May 2004, 1058 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2349 times:

I'm having hallucinations!
What a crap!

Send him an email telling to fly only at night and to avoid any reflections to paint the a/c in black.
When I've opened the photo I was expecting to see his face in front of the window... but where is the pilot??
You take photos of airplanes flying in the air and this is a public property. It was not parked in a private place..

Flo, for my first time I disagree with you ( Amazing Big grin

)...

Enrique

Martin21 From Netherlands, joined Aug 2001, 346 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2313 times:

Quoting Javibi (Reply 2):
Do not even care to answer...

j

Javibi is right, you should not care...
Good luck with it !

Martin21

At 30.000 feet, the sun always shines !

Manzoori From UK - England, joined Sep 2002, 1516 posts, RR: 37
Reply 5, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2282 times:

Danny,

It's probably someone having a laugh and being a smartass. My advice to you is to ignore it.

Cheers!

Rez

Flightlineimages DOT Com Photographer & Web Editor. RR Turbines Specialist

BrianW999 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 310 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2242 times:

N74ND does not show on the US register as checked with landings.com so tracing the owner is difficult, but the livery looks very reminiscent of that of Flight Options Leasing. the "pilot" claims that it is "his" aeroplane. Unless he's the CEO or business owner its not really any of his business, is it ?

Some people will go to amazing lengths to make a buck or two !

Tell him that the picture was taken in the public domain and that you hold the image copyright. If he doesn't like the image being sold ask if he would care to purchase the copyright for a suitable one off fee. I'm sure you could think of one !

[Edited 2006-01-15 14:22:38]

Jay767 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2234 times:

Tell him he is more than welcome to buy a print Wink

Martin21 From Netherlands, joined Aug 2001, 346 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2219 times:

Quoting Jay767 (Reply 7):
Tell him he is more than welcome to buy a print

At 30.000 feet, the sun always shines !

Morvious From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 702 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2201 times:

LMAO,

Brian is right.. Let him pay enough for the copyrights, and give him the image!

have a good day, Stefan van Hierden

2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8950 posts, RR: 62
Reply 10, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2173 times:

AIRLINERS.NET CREW
HEAD DATABASE EDITOR

Quoting BrianW999 (Reply 6):
N74ND does not show on the US register as checked with landings.com so tracing the owner is difficult

Here's some unconfirmed info I found:

c/n - 258063
model - 800A

Previous Regs
G-5-518 N367BA N74ND

Owner(?) - GECC

I then found that a Hawker 800 with the same c/n (258063) is currently registered to Tulsair Beechcraft, Inc, under N391TC. Strange.

2H4

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Vzlet From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 820 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2168 times:

Quoting Fiveholer (Thread starter):
How is this legal?

Either ignore it, or simply respond to his/her question and explain how it's legal.

"That's so stupid! If they're so secret, why are they out where everyone can see them?" - my kid

Fiveholer From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1009 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (7 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2131 times:

I did respond and tell him I was in the right being in a public area, etc, etc...suprisingly, no reply! Big grin

Anyway...yeah, It was registered to Tulsair Beechcraft when I uploaded, looks as if the reg. has changed. Anyway, thanks guys, what an oaf.

Danny

Bring back Bethune!

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