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User currently offlineAirplanepics From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2730 posts, RR: 41
Posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1341 times:

Evening all,

I'm looking for some feedback on the below image that got rejected for Bad Center.

I've just measured the image in photoshop and it's pretty much centered in the frame. Am I missing something here?

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r.../20060115_LNRPASAS736LHR070805.jpg

Best Regards,
Simon Nicholls

[Edited 2006-01-15 21:19:11]


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User currently offlineChrisH From Sweden, joined Jul 2004, 1136 posts, RR: 16
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1331 times:

a little more space in front of nose needed maybe? well harsh. nice pic!


what seems to be the officer, problem?
User currently offlineMartin21 From Netherlands, joined Aug 2001, 347 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1317 times:

Quoting Airplanepics (Thread starter):
Am I missing something here?

Yep, missing the tail.... at least I think that is the reason.

Martin21



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User currently offlineAirplanepics From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2730 posts, RR: 41
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1314 times:

Quoting Martin21 (Reply 2):
Yep, missing the tail.... at least I think that is the reason.

I've always cropped like that, havn't had any problems before!


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User currently offlineMartin21 From Netherlands, joined Aug 2001, 347 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1303 times:

I think that you have to contact one of the screeners than... I have no further idea what it could be. I must say that I like the colors very much !

Martin21



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User currently offlineTZ From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2003, 1085 posts, RR: 53
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1277 times:
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The centering looks awkward, but it is definately not level (needs some CCW).

TZ



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User currently offlineAirplanepics From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2730 posts, RR: 41
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1269 times:

Hi Tamsin,

Thanks for the reply.
I've just had a look at the image in photoshop, and am trying to why you think it needs some CCW rotation. I've used guide lines against different verticals in the frame.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/Airplanepics/lvel.jpg

Cheers,

Simon.

Edit: Sorry, can't get the image any bigger!

[Edited 2006-01-15 22:25:51]


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User currently offlineGBOAB From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 366 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1262 times:

Is it me or does the grass in the foreground look odd, do you use neatimage ?

Cheers

Ian



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User currently offlineAirplanepics From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2730 posts, RR: 41
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1260 times:

Quoting GBOAB (Reply 7):
Is it me or does the grass in the foreground look odd, do you use neatimage ?

No, I think it's just where it's not in focus.

Simon.



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User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3905 posts, RR: 19
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1257 times:

In the two accepted examples, the runway is lower than in the rejected pic, and I do think the rejected pic looks unbalanced.

When you cut the tail, that should be done for a reason, ie the plane should fill most of the picture.

In your accepted examples, the whole fin would not fit in the frame even when the a/c was lower in the frame, while in the rejected pic it might fit. This is not a rule or something, but I think it goes some way in explaining what's wrong.

Quoting Airplanepics (Thread starter):
I've just measured the image in photoshop and it's pretty much centered in the frame.

This is, in any case, a completely wrong way of looking at the problem, in my opinion. Measuring this or that distance gets you nowhere. The problem is that your subject is not a rectangular shape, it's an L shape. Even when you crop half the fin out, you can't simply ignore the fact that there's such a thing on most aircraft (a huge fin even in the case of the 737-600).

Peter



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User currently offlineChrisH From Sweden, joined Jul 2004, 1136 posts, RR: 16
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1235 times:

Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 9):
you can't simply ignore the fact that there's such a thing on most aircraft (a huge fin even in the case of the 737-600).

Of course you can. Or all shots on a.net would be full-figure aircraft.



what seems to be the officer, problem?
User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3905 posts, RR: 19
Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1229 times:

I'm not saying you can never cut the fin. Read.

[Edited 2006-01-15 23:09:15]


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User currently offlineJavibi From Spain, joined Oct 2004, 1371 posts, RR: 42
Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1224 times:

Quoting Tamsin (Reply 5):
(needs some CCW).

I agree.

About the centering, could you include the whole fin in the frame and see how it looks?

After all that work, reupload it and wait for your quality rejection...

Cheers

j



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