StealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5678 posts, RR: 45 Posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2022 times:
After a couple of days of intelligent and mature debate by many people on different but related issues the forum is getting back to the good old days, the days of useful and helpful discussion.. the thing I actually became a FC member for.
Nice to see the more adult atmosphere attracted Johan back as well, hell if this keeps up we will be hearing from Tamsin, Gary and others.
And the photo forum will be the better for it!
If your camera sends text messages, that could explain why your photos are rubbish!
Psych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 3048 posts, RR: 58
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1883 times:
I echo all the points made above.
What we really need to see is more constructive debate between photographers and the screening team (and other crew members). The problem has been that many of the 'complaints' of photographers have been worded or get viewed as whingeing, moaning, and unfair/irrational criticism and so those able to respond start to think there is no point. You then get a positive feedback loop, with tempers fraying, more abusive language and even more reason for the powers that be to think the only sensible option is to 'leave the children to squabble amongst themselves'. Hence no constructive debate. Without that crucial communication the sense that things are changing and contributors are being neglected only gets worse.
What has been different over the last couple of days is that a few key people - and that's all it needs - have show they are listening and taking points seriously. For me that's far more important than whether anyone agrees with anything I may be saying - it's that it's being actively heard.
If we can all be constructive and avoid degenerating into a slanging match I feel optimistic.
I too would like to see some old names back - I feel it was the loss of key contributors that has had a big impact on the general angst that has worsened over recent weeks and months.
TimdeGroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 64
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1736 times:
I am glad the new course is being appreciated. I hope more screeners and also old contributors who have left will follow as the forum gets cleaned up. I really hope we can keep on going this way because this might be the last chance...
I havent been around long enough to know what it was like! I'll stick with the way things are going currently which sees me post more and more on here now. Untill people are bored with my posts and i'm told to get my coat......
TransIsland From Bahamas, joined Mar 2004, 2044 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1639 times:
I think that debate was much needed, and I can't help but think that maybe something actually changed, even though the crew may not want to admit it. I just had a shot accepted (a few hours ago), and I just went to find it... It's already waaaay back on page 25 of the most recent uploads. Lately, I do remember logging on in the morning and after a few pages I'd be back where I'd left off the previous day. Now of course I did not look at every single one of these photos, it may just be that they are all absolutely up to the new standards, but I don't recall seeing that many new shots in such a short period of time lately...
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