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User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3233 posts, RR: 14
Posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1405 times:
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Hey guys. These 5 all got bad quality after some intense reviewing and editing. Granted the weather was crappy, but a LOT of grain was removed along with other noise and such. The pictures are much sharper than they were. I, personally, don't see how they are all quality. Sure, one or two may be. So here's my question.

Can anything be done about a quality rejection? And, if so, is it worth-while to re-submit these photos or will they get some other rejection like Center, Motive, Angle, etc.?

Here they are.

1) http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/...lename=20060211_HBIXUGVAsubmit.jpg

2) http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/...lename=20060211_HBIQCGVAsubmit.jpg

3) http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/...lename=20060211_HBIXGLCYsubmit.jpg

4) http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/...lename=20060211_GBWIRLCYsubmit.jpg

5) http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/...lename=20060211_DBHOQGVAsubmit.jpg

Thanks for your input guys.


TIS


www.stellaryear.com: Canon EOS 50D, Canon EOS 5DMkII, Sigma 50mm 1.4, Canon 24-70 2.8L II, Canon 100mm 2.8L, Canon 100-4
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User currently offlinePsyops From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1383 times:

They seem a bit soft to me, and a bit flat - i.e. not enough contrast.

Pete

User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3262 posts, RR: 33
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1378 times:

Quoting ANITIX87 (Thread starter):
Can anything be done about a quality rejection?

Yes: Don't upload more than one photo per day.

I can't be certain if you did, but I generally don't upload more than one photo per day, because they would all be screened at the same time. Based on my observations, if the screener feels that the quality of the first photo is sub-par, then there seems to be a bias that develops against the quality of all of your subsequent photos.

I don't think it's a stretch of the imagination for a screener to think that since the first photo was a no-go, then the rest aren't going to be much better since they were probably taken with the same camera and underwent the same editing technique (thereby spending less time screening them to see if there's a significant difference in quality than the first to justify an HQ rating). I don't think it's possible to reject one image for quality, then show absolutely no bias whatsoever against a subsequent image taken by the same photographer. However, I don't hold that against the screener...It's only human nature to let our first impressions affect our perceptions.


"About the only way to look at it, just a pity you are not POTUS KFLLCFII, seems as if we would all be better off."
User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3233 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1371 times:
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PSYOPS...
Thanks for the tips. Will see what I can do. Are they saveable?


KFLLCFII...
As far as I know, the screeners do not see who took the picture they are screening. So they screener would have no way of knowing if I'd uploaded 1 or 750 photos (even though my limit is 5). Granted, some are similar and they could have assumed, but it would be wrong for them to have such a bias, in case I happened to be at the airport with someone and they had just taken similar pictures that I had taken. I would hope that our screener's are completely unbiased, even though what you bring up does have a great deal to do with our subconscious.

I'm not sure about this last thing, but a screener chooses a certain number of photos to screen, and they may not be shown to him/her in the order they were submitted, so, if I remember correctly, some of my pictures may be separated by others from other photogs. But again, I'm not sure on the second paragraph.

I'll try your tip nevertheless. See what happens.

TIS


www.stellaryear.com: Canon EOS 50D, Canon EOS 5DMkII, Sigma 50mm 1.4, Canon 24-70 2.8L II, Canon 100mm 2.8L, Canon 100-4
User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 10554 posts, RR: 53
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1354 times:

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 3):
As far as I know, the screeners do not see who took the picture they are screening.

My understanding is that they do review all of the photos from an individual photographer at the same time. I think this is a recent change.

User currently offlinePsyops From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1327 times:

When the photos were edited, were they sharpened at all? If not, there is an excellent "masterclass" thread on sharpening.

The best way to adjust contrast that I have found is to adjust the levels. Fergul workflow available via the upload page is an excellent resource.

I certainly think the photos can be saved.

Pete

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