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Why Badmotive?  
User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 4028 posts, RR: 55
Posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1491 times:

Hi,

I got this one rejected for motive. What's wrong with it? Should I appeal?

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...20060211_OE-HPZ_ZRH_21-01-06kj.jpg

Thanks,

Kas

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User currently offlineTimdeGroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 64
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1474 times:
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Can't see anything wrong with it on the motive part.

Tim



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User currently offlineDelta717 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 457 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1447 times:

The only thing I see wrong could be the ladder next to the nose. It's a little distracting. Other than that, I don't know.

User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 4028 posts, RR: 55
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1430 times:

Hi guys,

Thanks for your opinions. I do however have another case of badmotive which I found out just now.

This is the shot in question:
http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/...20060211_9V-SMV_ZRH_21-01-06kj.jpg

I recently had this one accepted:


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Now this kind of shot is all of a sudden badmotive? Should I appeal this one aswell?

Thanks,

Kas


User currently offlineNonRevKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1404 times:

That shot is fine. Nothing wrong with it.

B


User currently offlineFlyfisher1976 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 804 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1396 times:

Quoting AirKas1 (Thread starter):

I got this one rejected for motive. What's wrong with it? Should I appeal?

Again, another case where one or two words from the screener would help clarify things 100%. Maybe I should add this to the "sugestions" thread...although I'm sure it has already been addressed many times before.


User currently offlineTimdeGroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 64
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1345 times:
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Quoting Flyfisher1976 (Reply 5):
Again, another case where one or two words from the screener would help clarify things 100%

Relax, screeners don't browse the forum all day between 1 am and 3 am.

The motive of the shot is fine. However is looks pretty soft and is on the verge of badquality due to some slight oversharpening. If you can fix that I'd be happy for you to reupload, but write something in the screener comment box.

I do think however that these shots should be uploaded in very small numbers. Two is obviously ok, but we don't need engine shots of every plane that come to zurich. My point is that there may be an unwritten limit as to haow many of those similar shots you can upload, particularly from the same day/angle etc,

Tim



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User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 4028 posts, RR: 55
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1341 times:

Thanks again for everyone's thought!

Quoting TimdeGroot (Reply 6):
The motive of the shot is fine. However is looks pretty soft and is on the verge of badquality due to some slight oversharpening. If you can fix that I'd be happy for you to reupload, but write something in the screener comment box.

Thanks, I'll do that. Is it possible to have a shot that is soft and oversharpened at the same time  Wink

Quoting TimdeGroot (Reply 6):
I do think however that these shots should be uploaded in very small numbers. Two is obviously ok, but we don't need engine shots of every plane that come to zurich. My point is that there may be an unwritten limit as to how many of those similar shots you can upload, particularly from the same day/angle etc,

I can understand that. I only took these 2 and I thought I'd give them a try. So on my behalf you won't see any more engine shots in a while.


User currently offlineFlyfisher1976 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 804 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1332 times:

Quoting TimdeGroot (Reply 6):
Relax, screeners don't browse the forum all day between 1 am and 3 am.

Actually, I think you should relax and not jump on the defensive....

My point was that if the screener had included a personal message with the rejection, maybe all the mystery could be avoided. Motive and quality are rejections that pait with a pretty broad stroke (unlike soft or blurry for example). Even just one word from the screener in these cases could help clarify the rejection reason. Then the shot could be either "fixed" and reuploaded, or binned for the personal collection. Lots of time and aggrivation could be saved here.


User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 4028 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1327 times:

Well, I appealed and it got accepted (within 15 mins after I appealed it!). Now that's some fast screening! Thanks!


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User currently offlineLeezyjet From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 4042 posts, RR: 53
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1269 times:

How is a pic of an engine Badmotive, yet a Picture of a tree gets accepted and becomes pic of the day (a few weeks ago) just because it has a few blurry streaks of light above it that is supposed to be an a/c, although you could not even make out any part of the a/c ?.

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User currently offlineAPFPilot1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1232 times:

Quoting TimdeGroot (Reply 6):
My point is that there may be an unwritten limit as to haow many of those similar shots you can upload, particularly from the same day/angle etc,

I certainly hope that isnt the case for two reasons
1)Unwritten rules in the screening process are a bad idea and will result in more rejections and complaints especially if they are arbitrarily enforced as an opinion of the screener.

2) I for one find these shots awesome, and I know a lot of views (i.e. ad clicks) do as well because they always get huge amounts of clicks.


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