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Motive Question For Cockpit Shots  
User currently offlineElpinDAB From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 489 posts, RR: 3
Posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5323 times:

I just got this one rejected for motive, and I was just wondering exactly why, as I have since taken a couple more like it, and I want to be able to fix it for future shots.

Here's the rejected shot

Here's a similar one I just uploaded last night. Think it would be an noa_motive
candidate also?

Any comments or advice will be appreciated.

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User currently offlinePaulinbna From United States of America, joined Feb 2003, 1114 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5304 times:
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I think the first one get rejected for the dark screens.

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User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3433 posts, RR: 24
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5297 times:


I'm thinking they would have preferred the motive to be one of two other ways:

1) Show more of the instrument panel versus less outside, or
2) Show more outside versus less of the instrument panel.

...As in, would it be a scenery shot, or a cockpit shot? I don't think the current motive makes that distinction clear enough.



**Edit: I think the same applies to the second shot as well.

[Edited 2006-02-15 00:21:39]

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User currently offlineI530j From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 233 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 5286 times:

Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 2):


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User currently offlineElpinDAB From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 489 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5247 times:

Thanks for all the replies so far!

Quoting Paulinbna (Reply 1):
I think the first one get rejected for the dark screens.

This was my initial reaction, and I hope this is the case.  crossfingers  I think it could definitely be improved if I had gotten the flash to not bounce off the screens. (It seemed to get better and better as the sun went down. I started out in broad dailight, same settings, and screens were COMPLETELY black. Then, they got more and more readible. Very interesting...any thoughts?? Unfortunately, I landed before the sun went down more, although, as you can seen in the second one, the sun is lower, but the screens are more readable - - unfortunately, it doesn't have the G1000's glass screens.) Also, I, as a pilot, enjoy the motive of seeing what's on the inside AND the outside - It's most like real flying (unless you are in actual IFR conditions) , where you see what is outside AND inside almost at the same time. I know of a few examples of this in the DB, and they are some of my absolute favorites, so I was almost trying to immitate this with my shots (only after I figured out how though  Wink It's always soooo interesting to figure out new techniques, etc. for photography. There are so many BEAUTIFUL things that I see every time I fly, but I simply don't know how to capture in by camera.)

Once again, thanks for the replies! I hope they keep coming. Like I said, I hope to take many more shots like these, and I (very much) want to improve them. They'll only be Cessna's for now, but I garuntee you that as soon as I start flying the big ones, I'll take pics from them also!


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