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User currently offlineTV840 From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 83 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2056 times:

Hi,

I just got these two rejections:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...jections/big/20060215_DSC_2996.jpg
Rejected for motive

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...jections/big/20060215_DSC_3007.jpg
Rejected for angle, but to me the plane seems to be level

Some advice would be really appreciated!

Thanks,

Maxim


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User currently offlineSoBe From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 256 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2056 times:

Hi Maxim,

The first one does nothing for me. What am I looking at? The rear of an engine or a satellite? You could have shown how clean and polished everything is and shown more aircraft by shooting from a rear quarter and not nearly as tight.

The second one is not level. There are many different horizontals and verticals in this shot but I would use the sign beneath the plane or the tail support on the plane to level it. I'm not a big fan of these side-on shots as my eye is constantly drawn to the wingtip but that is a personal preference.

Cheers,
Mike


User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4695 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2056 times:

I agree, but the second I would level on the vertical support above the plane. This one is in the middle so it doesn't suffer (as much) from distortion.


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User currently offlineTV840 From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 83 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2056 times:

Thanks for your replies!

I had a go on the second photo, and this is the result:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/DSC_3007.jpg

Does it look level now?



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User currently offlineTimdeGroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 64
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2056 times:
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The first one is a case of a badcrop in my opinion. Either crop more closely really take us into the engine or crop wider to include the airbrakes as well (although in that case you might risk motive again)

Second one still need substantial cw rotation. In these wideangle shots the verticals in the middle of the frame should be level (unless there was cropping on either side).

Tim



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User currently offlineTV840 From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 83 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2022 times:

Sorry for my late reply.

Tim, thanks for your advice! Can you please tell me what's the best crop?
Or should I crop a bit wider?

http://photobucket.com/albums/e63/Ostboy/

The second photo:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/DSC3007.jpg

Maxim



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User currently offlineKukkudrill From Malta, joined Dec 2004, 1123 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2019 times:

In my opinion the 2nd of the two F-16 jetpipe shots is better.

The other photo still needs cw rotation. For this one I would follow JRadier's advice.



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User currently offlineLIPH From Italy, joined May 2004, 848 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2015 times:

Maxim,
for the firts one : strange it was rejected. Have a look at this one :


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Photo © Raimund Stehmann



Maybe, as Tim said, it's a matter of cropping....

Regards



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User currently offlineTV840 From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 83 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2006 times:

Quoting LIPH (Reply 7):
for the firts one : strange it was rejected. Have a look at this one

Maybe this one was accepted because of the lighting and structure of the engine. This one is way better than my shot (that's just my opinion)!  Smile

Regards

Maxim



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User currently offlineFlyfisher1976 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 804 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1993 times:

Quoting SoBe (Reply 1):
The first one does nothing for me. What am I looking at? The rear of an engine or a satellite?

I think it's a great shot, I knew exactly what I was looking at as soon as I viewed it. Maybe a slightly different crop will do it some good.

Quoting LIPH (Reply 7):
Maxim,
for the firts one : strange it was rejected. Have a look at this one :

Look who's involved all of a sudden...strange...


User currently offlineTV840 From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 83 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1981 times:

Quoting Flyfisher1976 (Reply 9):
Maybe a slightly different crop will do it some good.

What do you mean by "a slight different crop"? Can you explain it more specific please?

PS: I don't know, but would it be possible to hear johan his opinion?

Maxim



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User currently offlineLIPH From Italy, joined May 2004, 848 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1972 times:

Quoting Flyfisher1976 (Reply 9):
Look who's involved all of a sudden...strange...

Some wrong ?

Regards



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