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Canon 30D Announced  
User currently offlineLumix From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 114 posts, RR: 3
Posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3359 times:
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The 1st info can be found here:

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=7-7891-8214

Enjoy!

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User currently offlineChrisH From Sweden, joined Jul 2004, 1136 posts, RR: 16
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3353 times:

Still only 8mpix. Not exactly the D200 killer everyone expected.


what seems to be the officer, problem?
User currently offlineDendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1668 posts, RR: 61
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3353 times:
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Certainly no good reason to change from a 20D
I think the term would be 'minor improvements'

Mick Bajcar


User currently offlineIL76 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2004, 2237 posts, RR: 48
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3333 times:

So little change...
Great!!
I'll save me another 1000+ Euros, skip this generation, wait another year and a half for a 40D ( Confused) and buy me a 24-105L IS instead. hehehe...

E


User currently offlineLGW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3323 times:

Hi all,

Interesting read, the LCD screen looks fantastic and a couple of other nice tweaks to the 20D, but I have to say I am surprised Canon didnt go further with the 30D.

Cheers

Ben


User currently offlineRyan h From Australia, joined Aug 2001, 1548 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3300 times:

Does not seem to be a big difference between the 20D and 30D. So why not call it the 25D?


South Australian Spotter
User currently offlineOD720 From Lebanon, joined Feb 2003, 1925 posts, RR: 32
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3289 times:

Quoting Ryan h (Reply 5):
Does not seem to be a big difference between the 20D and 30D. So why not call it the 25D?

They don't want to copy the Airbus model, A319, 320, 321...  Big grin


User currently offlineDC10Tim From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1406 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3272 times:

Quoting Dendrobatid (Reply 2):
Certainly no good reason to change from a 20D
I think the term would be 'minor improvements'

I couldn't agree more. A slightly larger screen, improved menus and the addition of spot-metering are the only really noticable changes and would you really pay over the odds for that? Still, it might mean that 20Ds are relatively cheap to pick up in a few months  optimist 

Tim.



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User currently offlineMartin21 From Netherlands, joined Aug 2001, 347 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3262 times:

Quoting OD720 (Reply 6):
They don't want to copy the Airbus model, A319, 320, 321...

So call it the Canon EOS 20D-300ER than !

Martin21



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User currently offlineAndrewUber From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2528 posts, RR: 40
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3251 times:

Quoting ChrisH (Reply 1):
Still only 8mpix. Not exactly the D200 killer everyone expected.

On the contrary, what kills the D200 is that THIS camera has the word "CANON" on it.  duck 

Drew  wave 



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User currently offlineLGW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3251 times:

Tim,

If you are after a bargain 20D you could do worse than check the second hand market. I picked up a 20D in mint condition for well under £600 last year.

Used 20D's are rare but the odd one comes about, only problems I have had have been with my lenses not the 20D body, it came with a 6 month warranty too.

Cheers

Ben


User currently offlineTimdeGroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 64
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3239 times:
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I had really hoped for something more than this, frankly this is a disappointment.

I'll stick with my 10D.

Tim



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User currently offlineLewis From Greece, joined Jul 1999, 3636 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3219 times:

Not so many improvements overall. I am quite happy though that Canon made a good EF-S zoom lens, although its going to be pricey.

User currently offlineN907CL From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 255 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3213 times:

I have a Canon 10D now and have been waiting for the announcement, because I'm looking for a second camera body. So my choices are now 20D, 30D, 5D, and 1D Mark II N. I was hoping for a 1.3 crop factor and 10mp, but reality is always different.


Brian
User currently offlineNirmalmakadia From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 223 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3190 times:

Quoting Martin21 (Reply 8):
So call it the Canon EOS 20D-300ER than !

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User currently offlineWhyWhyZed From Canada, joined Jan 2005, 914 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3180 times:

This was really a dissapoint for anyone waiting to purchase a camera. It's not like Canon to do such a thing, and release a camera with very minimal upgrades.

Everyone is going to start complaining, and Canon will come out with something much better in June, to make sure they're safe. heheheh...

- Jason DePodesta


User currently offlineINNflight From Switzerland, joined Apr 2004, 3766 posts, RR: 59
Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3165 times:

Quoting TimdeGroot (Reply 11):
I had really hoped for something more than this, frankly this is a disappointment.

Definitely. Never cared too much about the '30D', but I was desperately hoping for that 3D to come out... oh well, I guess I'll stick with my 300.

F.



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User currently offlineChrispatton From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3140 times:

I'll be stick with my 300D for a good few months yet, though if this 30D knocks the price of a 20D down a bit, then wohoo  Smile

Not so sure I'd go for second hand 20D, unless got lucky with a good deal.


User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (8 years 7 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3124 times:

Quoting someone (Reply 300):
Not exactly the D200 killer everyone expected.

"More importantly, we've shot the D200 and 20D side-by-side for available light basketball over several weekends this winter, and the 20D is by far the better camera for this purpose. Not only were the ISO 800 through ISO 3200 frames massively cleaner and more usable, the percentage of in-focus frames was signficantly higher. In fact, we've ruled out using the D200 for this sort of assigment again. So, we don't think Nikon has in the D200 a camera that's a clear winner over the upcoming 30D by any means."

Quoting AndrewUber (Reply 9):
On the contrary, what kills the D200 is that THIS camera has the word "CANON" on it.

BINGO !  Smile


User currently offlineDan330 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2001, 439 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (8 years 7 months 4 days ago) and read 3106 times:

Well I was worried this new announcement may persuade me to go for a new camera rather than spend the money I've saved on travel this year as originally planned.
No chance of that now after this very dissappointing announcement.

Maybe the 20Ds would have been a more appropriate name! Seems like the same sort of upgrade Nikon used from the D70 to the D70s, not really worth giving it a new name for.


User currently offlineJay767 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 223 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 7 months 4 days ago) and read 3081 times:

Well no need to upgrade my 20D what so ever with this new revision,I guess this means I will be buying the 24-105 L after all.


User currently offlineMikephotos From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2923 posts, RR: 54
Reply 21, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3065 times:

Quoting JeffM (Reply 18):
"More importantly, we've shot the D200 and 20D side-by-side for available light basketball over several weekends this winter, and the 20D is by far the better camera for this purpose. Not only were the ISO 800 through ISO 3200 frames massively cleaner and more usable, the percentage of in-focus frames was signficantly higher. In fact, we've ruled out using the D200 for this sort of assigment again. So, we don't think Nikon has in the D200 a camera that's a clear winner over the upcoming 30D by any means."

That just proves the photographer doesn't know what the $#% he/she is doing. They were shooting available light basketball long before DSLR's (as I know you know). A true pro should be obtaining a high percentage of in-focus frames with any SLR, even a cheap D50 or Drebel. Performace at ISO 3200 surely isn't a deciding factor for a majority of photogs. Personally, I've tested a few hi-ISO shots on the D200 and must say if you can't get "clean and usable" shots from a D200 shooting indoor Basketball you have more problems than deciding between a 20D and D200. Of course, that's just my opinion, take it how you wish  Smile

That said, this 30D seems like a very nice option for new Canon buyers. Probably not worth an upgrade from a 20D unless it has high-mileage but a nice addition to the Canon line. It's just too bad they ruined it by putting CANON on there  Wink

Mike


User currently offlineChrisH From Sweden, joined Jul 2004, 1136 posts, RR: 16
Reply 22, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3040 times:

Quoting Mikephotos (Reply 21):
if you can't get "clean and usable" shots from a D200 shooting indoor Basketball you have more problems than deciding between a 20D and D200.

Yatzy!



what seems to be the officer, problem?
User currently offlineFly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3153 posts, RR: 51
Reply 23, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3019 times:
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Did anyone mention the price yet?
From dpreview: "Good news also comes in the form of a slightly lower price than the EOS 20D."

For me as a 10D user, it might still be worth looking into, as I was already close to buying the 20D.



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User currently offlineMUC_Spotter From Cayman Islands, joined Apr 2002, 156 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (8 years 7 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3015 times:

K, it will be available around 1300€ at the beginning (suggested price by Canon is 1399€).

25 Bruce : The "street" price on this body is expected to be just about the same or slightly below the 20D. If so, then its a good deal. If its more....well, I d
26 A388 : So I guess this is comparable to the EOS350D over the EOS300D, minor improvements? What about the rumoured EOS3000D I read about in another thread? An
27 Post contains images Codeshare : I heard the price could be $1400 (just below the D200 price, oh-harlee-ha ). It's just an addition of spot metering and a bigger LCD, if you ask me. T
28 9VSPO : Why didn't they just call it the 20D MkII?
29 Mfz : I guess it's a great camera with some major improvements for everybody still being in the D60 or even D30-segment. When owning a 10D one might still b
30 JAT74L : Jessops are offering a pre order price if £1179.99 with the EF-S 18-55 lens in the UK. My 20 will be with me for some time longer now. 24-105L here I
31 Post contains images AndrewUber : LMAO!!! Great reply!!! Drew
32 Post contains images Adamwright : Glad I just got my old Digital Rebel off my hands at a good price .. haha This new 30D is definately not a camera worth upgrading to from the 20D for
33 Post contains images Jran225 : Hey guys, frankly I'm quite surprised that you're all so disappointed with this new one. I agree, it's not a vast improvement over the 20D, but improv
34 IL76 : I'm sticking with my 10D. I skipped the 20D, so I can skip this one aswell. Buying a nice lens is far more important than buying a 2nd body with a 2"
35 Post contains links DLKAPA : Get 'em while they're hot, the price she is a fallin: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...8299&is=REG&addedTroughType=search
36 Aviopic : It does feature one nice thingy though ! Finally true spot metering is back instead of the partial metering. Of course the specs for this cam are rea
37 Dehowie : For Tim and E do yourselves a favor and go grab a 20D from somewhere. The extra FPS and the huge increase in the AF more than offset the cost. Combine
38 StealthZ : Canon was in a no win situation here and judging by the whining and gnashing of teeth over at DPReview they succeeded. If they brought out a 10mp(or m
39 Paulinbna : It would be nice to be able to change the ISO while looking in the viewfinder and also did I read this right that the ISO can be increase in 1/3 incre
40 ChrisH : Something nikon users have been able to do since D100, spot metering finally, talk about lagging. I reckon Canon don't want to piss off the 1D mark2
41 Post contains images GVerbeeck : Or 125 - 160 - 200 to be more exact . I find this the only extra the 30D has over its predecessor. The bigger LCD is nice, but do you really need tha
42 Post contains images Mikephotos : I've gotta say, a large LCD does come in handy. Sure it's not needed but once you start chimping, zooming to check sharpness, etc. on a 2.5" (my D200
43 Post contains images DC10Tim : I think you're right on the mark Chris when you consider Canon's position in terms of their current product range. However, it's not revolutionary en
44 Alphafloor : Ok now perfect ! The price of the 20D has suddenly dropped... I've just ordered my new 20D+17-85 online ! bye, Alejandro
45 Post contains images LGW : Chris, Win some, lose some.... "Something nikon users have been able to do since D100, spot metering finally, talk about lagging." Intreresting you sh
46 Post contains images ChrisH : Moot since it's practically noiseless. I'd miss spotmetering and a decent flash system alot more than ISO 100 tbh. PMA this weekend maybe something m
47 Aviopic : There was something on the Canon's called "partial metering" ! It worked the same as spot metering just with a little bigger area and worked fine for
48 Post contains images LGW : Chris, "practically noiseless" I guess there is perfection and near perfection Cheers Ben
49 Post contains images ChrisH : Yes, 8x10" film is lovely but not practical (cause I know you weren't referring to anything else)
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