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User currently offlineSukhoi From Sweden, joined May 2006, 373 posts, RR: 8
Posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1501 times:

**Disclaimer Please dont turn this serious question in to a bitchy thread about the travel list**

Screeners and or Johan,

Can you tell me if the "travel list" photographers go through the same process as everyone else and get their shots viewed by the Screeners?

Looking at some of the latest shots I would say they dont and if their compared to some of the questions being asked in the forum it seems to make it obvious that their not. If they are not screened then can I ask why the quality threshold appears lower than us normal souls have to deal with? Particularly as the travel list features "the better quality shots" Should we not all be treated the same?

Regards

Paul

**This is a serious question, if you reply to this thread dont go on about the travel list etc. Gary + Johan please feel free to delete once somebody does go over the top  Wink/being sarcastic**

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User currently offlineGranite From UK - Scotland, joined May 1999, 5576 posts, RR: 63
Reply 1, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1420 times:
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Hi Paul

The 'travel list' is not screened by the screeners.

Johan 'screens' the travel list and uploads/rejects as necessary.

Regards
Gary Watt
Aberdeen, Scotland


User currently offlineA380-200 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1411 times:


Good question Paul!

Why should Johan choose to not have travel listed photogs shots pre-screened? Even if a significant number of their shots were to be rejected there would still be plenty there to serve Johans need for 'regular updates from reliable sources'.

Whilst people can probably swallow Johans reasons for the travel list (even if they dislike or don't agree with those arguments) it must be very hard for many people to accept that those photogs don't even get their shots screened.

That does leave the system open to some abuse...and whilst I know for sure some don't upload anything less than their very best shots (like Gary - check them out)...others are perhaps not so discerning.

A point worthy of discussion.

Regards,


User currently offlineSukhoi From Sweden, joined May 2006, 373 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1394 times:

Why did you two have to reply first looks like some kind of set up now  Wink/being sarcastic

Okay so if Johan screens them then there is a lower quality threshold *if* he likes the shot. But if he doesnt like it as in Joe's case with his stunning GE90 shot, it doesnt matter how good it is, out it goes!

To me thats as a shame as personally i would like to see us all go through the same process, as Dean has pointed out these guys have plenty of shots to choose from and if the odd one or two were rejected then its not going to hurt them. I know if I had uploaded a couple of those recently accepted the screeners would have had a field day Big grin

Cheers

Paul


User currently offlineA380-200 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1387 times:


What do you mean setup? What setup?  Innocent

Anyway...where's my cheque!!!  Pissed

Cheers,
Dean  Wink/being sarcastic


User currently offlineBlackened From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1383 times:

*This is not intended to be anything against the travel list!

We've discussed something which goes in that direction some weeks ago. I think some of the better known photographers can do far more than the regular uploader. I still claim that some pictures would get rejected by the screeners if there only was another name on them. But this is not necessarily bad cause we get to see special shots (maybe something like Joe Pries' engine shot - I was surprised it got rejected).



User currently offlineScreener4 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1360 times:

We could do without the extra work!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

However, I have seen a few pics slip through recently from people on the travel list that I would consider should have been rejected (put it this way, if I had seen them, they would have been). Having said that, the vast majority that I have seen of them are perfectly good shots, and there's no problem with them. Would this make it worth the screeners looking at *all* the travel list photos?



User currently offlineBlackened From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1353 times:

Are there pictures added that nobody has ever seen? Johan sees them all, right?

User currently offlineGranite From UK - Scotland, joined May 1999, 5576 posts, RR: 63
Reply 8, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1359 times:
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Hi all

Yes, Johan is the only one who sees the travel list.

I am able to if he lets me upload while he is away on business.

Same procedure works as the 'screeners' page.

Regards
Gary Watt
Aberdeen, Scotland


User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 19
Reply 9, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1356 times:

Another reason may be because the screeners are on the travellist themselves (or some of them) and it would be smelly to have them screen their own uploads (or be seen to, even if they do not. There is probably something to prevent that in the screeners page, I know I would have built it in).
I do agree that the acceptancecriteria for the travellist seem to be less strict than those for us mortals, and that is not a good thing.



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User currently offlineSukhoi From Sweden, joined May 2006, 373 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1339 times:

Screener 4 thanks for your honesty in agreeing with my thoughts. Yes your correct most of the pictures are fine, you say extra work there are not that many people on the travel list compared to all of our "rubbish" that you have to look at  Wink/being sarcastic

Thanks

Paul


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