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What Camera Should I Buy? (16 Yr Old With Budget)  
User currently offlineBradWray From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 650 posts, RR: 1
Posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5162 times:

Right now I am using a Canon IXUS 50 which I am selling. I am after a camera which has consistant quality evan when zoom is used. I have a bugdet of around 250GBP. Which camera can you guys recomend to me? Please bear in mind I am oly 16 and still at school!

Your help would be apreciated. Thanks, Bradley


Hamilton: English for 'Alonso's bitch' :D
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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5153 times:

Quoting BradWray (Thread starter):
I have a bugdet of around 250GBP.

That's easy! D200!  biggrin 


I am of the opinion that if you are going to be in this hobby for the long haul and you should just get a DSLR. In the long run it will be better than buying a point and shoot and then a DSLR. Save a little more money and you can get a D50 which takes great pics and gives you much more versatility. Then you can save for zooms and such.


User currently offlineBradWray From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 650 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 5121 times:

Thanks for the reply NIKV69!


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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 5111 times:

Quoting BradWray (Reply 2):
Thanks for the reply NIKV69!

No problem!

Did a search on yahoo and the D50 is in the $700US price range. A little more with the kit. I don't believe in buying used equipment so I would save up some more money and try to get a DSLR in that range. You will be able to learn all the functions of the camera and how to take good pics. Then save up more and get the 200 or 300 zoom and your ready for the big time!  camera 

Good Luck and keep us posted!


User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5080 times:

If you're going for DSLR, you probably have enough money to go in on a used Canon D30 or D60, but remember you will have to buy lenses, and that can get expensive.

The other option is a point and shoot with fully manual as an option and a good zoom, I'd suggest something in the Olympus Camedia line, the C740Z and C750Z I've heard great things about, and both can put out some nice images. Olympus doesn't produce them anymore, you'll find them on e-bay as well.


User currently offlineLukasMako From Austria, joined Feb 2006, 88 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5071 times:

Hi BradWray,

I am also 16 and I have the D50 and using it with the Nikkor 70-300mm G.
In Germany, Austria and Szitzerland you can get the D50 Body a bit more than 500€ and the Lense for just 175€.
They are both good value for money ...

If your in the UK check out Amazon.

Here is a screenshot I which I made with my D50 and the Nikkor lense at VIE ...

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/20060303_OE-LAT-2.jpg

[Edited 2006-03-07 07:56:54]

User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5058 times:

Quoting LukasMako (Reply 5):


I am also 16 and I have the D50 and using it with the Nikkor 70-300mm G.

Great advice, that is a goood combo to start out with. Not too expensive and perfect for starting out.


User currently offlineWillo From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 1352 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5051 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 6):
Great advice, that is a goood combo to start out with. Not too expensive and perfect for starting out.



Quoting BradWray (Thread starter):
I have a bugdet of around 250GBP.

The cheapest D50 kit in the UK is over 420GBP, if you go for a body and 70-300 you are looking at nearly 500GBP - twice budget, and that's without memory cards and all of the other peripherals that suddenly become essential.

Quoting DLKAPA (Reply 4):
The other option is a point and shoot with fully manual as an option and a good zoom, I'd suggest something in the Olympus Camedia line, the C740Z and C750Z I've heard great things about, and both can put out some nice images. Olympus doesn't produce them anymore, you'll find them on e-bay as well.

No, but they do now make a 6mp, 10x optical zoom point and shoot for just over 200GBP.

I started out in digital with a C750UZ, the first 400 or so of my pictures on here were taken with it, before deciding that I had been bitten once again by the photography bug. Only then did I decide that I could justify the expense of a DSLR. I still love the Olympus - I was always have it with me when I'm out on my bike and can't carry the big kit around and it's the one I take on holiday. It also taught me the basics of photography to the point that I felt confident enough to move on.

For someone at school and on a budget I would think a point and shoot the better route to take. Who know's what you'll want to do when you leave school - females may turn out to be far more fun than airplanes

[Edited 2006-03-07 09:09:58]

User currently offlineAirbusA346 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 7437 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 5039 times:

I'm currently using the Fujifilm Finepix S5500, which is a good camera.

I am saving up for a Canon EOS350D and a lens kit which is £599 and I am only a few hundred off getting it. Big grin

Tom.



Tom Walker '086' First Officer of a A318/A319 for Air Lambert - Hours Flown: 17 hour 05 minutes (last updated 24/12/05).
User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 5022 times:

Quoting AirbusA346 (Reply 8):
I am saving up for a Canon EOS350D and a lens kit which is £599 and I am only a few hundred off getting it.

 checkmark 

Quoting Willo (Reply 7):
females may turn out to be far more fun than airplanes

They are fun but not as good an investment as a DSLR and good lens! footinmouth 


User currently offlineOly720man From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 6701 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 5013 times:

https://secure.hitech-uk.com/acatalog/Canon_Powershot_S2_IS.html
(won't link because it's https, by the looks of it. You'll have to copy and paste)

Can/would anyone recommend the Canon Powershot S2-IS?

Features
- 12x optical zoom
Focal Length 6.0-72.0mm (35mm film equivalent: 36-432mm)
- Optical Image Stabiliser
- Ultra Sonic Motor
- 5.0 Megapixels
- Extensive movie functions
- DIGIC II, iSAPS, FlexiZone AF/AE, USB 2.0 Hi-Speed
- 18 shooting modes, with My Colors
- Range of accessories
- 1.8" vari-angle LCD
- PictBridge compatible


All for £309 at digitaldepot.co.uk. Not too far above your budget. Any birthdays on the horizon??

Lens and MP wise it looks like all you need. And it has image stabilisation

On top of this you'll need memory cards, batteries, etc, etc.

Review here

http://www.steves-digicams.com/2005_reviews/s2is.html


Alternatively, the Sony Cybershot H1, referred to in the above review is £289 at Digitaldepot.co.uk

https://secure.hitech-uk.com/acatalog/Sony_DSC_H1.html




edit : added review
edit : added cybershot ref

[Edited 2006-03-07 11:05:32]

[Edited 2006-03-07 11:10:54]


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User currently offlineLinco22 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1380 posts, RR: 16
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 5005 times:

Hi Bradley,

Hope you're well, how did the trip to MAN go for you? Hope my directions didnt get you lost?

Anyway, I have a friend who has the S2 IS and it produces great images for the price. If you can get the £450 odd go for the Nikon D50 with the kit lens. Remember that the 55mm on the kit lens will get you nice side ons at MAN! then you can save for a decent telezoom. If money is an issue, then aim for the Canon S2 IS. Great camera for the money. I had the Minolta Dimage Z2 before I got my 350D and it was a good camera. The newer versions of this, the Z5/Z6 are worth a look too. Hope this helps

Regards
Colin  Smile


User currently offlineRuudOnline From Netherlands, joined Feb 2006, 82 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4980 times:

It should be no problem to get a used Canon 300d with standard lens and 55-200 or 70-300mm for about 500 euro.

I also saw some used d30 for 350 euro with lens.

Ruud


User currently offlineBradWray From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 650 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4950 times:

I found my way to the viewpoint Linco thx a lot.

I have been looking on ebay and I come across this 300D http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CANON-EOS-300D...categoryZ31388QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I was thinking that if I sell my IXUS 50 on ebay as they are going for around 120GBP, I then draw the extra 230 or so out of the bank I am still kind of within my budget but what do you guys think about that 300D?

Thanks for all of your replys guys keep them coming  Smile
Bradley



Hamilton: English for 'Alonso's bitch' :D
User currently offlineVvts From Vietnam, joined Jun 2005, 7 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4948 times:

PnS cameras : Canon S2 IS, Panasonic FZ series....
D-SLR : D50, D70s, D200, 20D, 350D
:D



vvts
User currently offlineLinco22 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1380 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4946 times:

Quoting BradWray (Reply 13):
what do you guys think about that 300D?

Its a great entry level DSLR, if you can stretch your budget, go for it!


User currently offlineOly720man From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 6701 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4931 times:

Quoting BradWray (Reply 13):
I was thinking that if I sell my IXUS 50 on ebay as they are going for around 120GBP, I then draw the extra 230 or so out of the bank I am still kind of within my budget but what do you guys think about that 300D?

Great camera, just don't count on the price on ebay being £350 in another 4 hours....



wheat and dairy can screw up your brain
User currently offlineDlednicer From United States of America, joined May 2005, 544 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4922 times:
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Quoting Oly720man (Reply 10):
Can/would anyone recommend the Canon Powershot S2-IS?

I switched to a S2 IS last October and my acceptance rate here at airliners.net has risen from 25-30% to 64% and its still rising. I personally like the S2 IS because it is very compact and light, unlike DSLRs. I carry it in a fanny pack, with spare batteries and memory cards. The S2 IS is great for shooting "portraits", but I am still working on mastering shooting action shots. It produces sharp, well exposed images with very little noise. The flip-out LCD screen is very handy for shooting over fences.

BradWray has about $436 to work with. Checking Google Froogle, I find that you can probably buy a S2 IS for this amount of money.


User currently offlineBradWray From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 650 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4919 times:

The S2 IS has been recomended to me on numerous occasions since I posted this forum and it is one of the options I am realy considering. I recently had a great email of Jim Groom who used the S2 IS-thanks a lot for that email Jim!

So are D-SLR's not needed for good zoom and consistant quality? Thanks guys keep posting!

Take care, Bradley!



Hamilton: English for 'Alonso's bitch' :D
User currently offlineLukasMako From Austria, joined Feb 2006, 88 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4901 times:

Buying a used EOS 300D on ebay is not as easy as it seems.

The fact that ebay is only for 18+ year olds is the first problem.
And the second one is that it sells very good even if the price of the article looks quite good it will increases extremley especially in the last hours, minutes and seconds ...

I tried it and the difference between used and new was not big enough for me to convince me to buy used.

Especially not Canon as I have bad expiriences with the quality of other products from them.

Well with Canon you can't ...   

[Edited 2006-03-07 17:23:24]

[Edited 2006-03-07 17:24:06]

User currently offlineBradWray From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 650 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4886 times:

I use my farthers ebay account  Smile I have made some purchases off ebay that when I look back I think why did I pay that much for that pice of ---- so I am not sure about ebay. My uncle (Robert Lyons) who also is a member of A.net has a number of cameras so I will see what he has and see if he is selling any but please do keep posting people- There is no such thing as a bad idea  Smile


Hamilton: English for 'Alonso's bitch' :D
User currently offlineWhyWhyZed From Canada, joined Jan 2005, 914 posts, RR: 16
Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4863 times:

The S2 IS's price is gradually dropping because of the announcment of the S3 IS. If you're really interested in the S2 IS, wait a little bit longer and you'll get a great deal on it.

However, I used to be in the same shoes as you. Everyone was telling me to save my money for a bit longer, and get a DSLR. I eventually did that, and do not regret that decision. I love my setup now.

- Jason DePodesta


User currently offlineGVerbeeck From Belgium, joined Mar 2005, 245 posts, RR: 24
Reply 22, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4857 times:

250 GBP can get you a nice film SLR (esp. when going used equipment) and a decent lens... great to learn the basics so you can step up to other equipment later on.

Giovanni


User currently offlineBradWray From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 650 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4831 times:

Well there she goes... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

Thanks for the posts people, please do keep them coming!

Take care, Bradley



Hamilton: English for 'Alonso's bitch' :D
User currently offlineINNflight From Switzerland, joined Apr 2004, 3766 posts, RR: 60
Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4828 times:

Quoting BradWray (Reply 13):
but what do you guys think about that 300D?

Still using a 300D, excellent camera if you don't need 8fps and can shoot at low ISO.

http://www.airliners.net/search/phot...jer%20-%20TCAS&distinct_entry=true



Jet Visuals
25 Kukkudrill : A DSLR will give you better rendition of detail, fewer processing artifacts, much less of a headache with noise, more consistently accurate autofocus
26 Post contains images Mikephotos : I would highly suggest this route. There are just too many people (not specifically here at Anet, just in general) shooting DSLR's that don't know wh
27 BradWray : Thank you all for your replies and please do keep them coming! After reading some of the messages in the post I feel i should just go for a good digit
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