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User currently offlineHawaiian717 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3192 posts, RR: 7
Posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 6645 times:

I've noticed there are a bunch of photos that appear to have come from Airliners.net on Wikipedia. Most disturbing about this is that the uploader will often claim the image has been released for any use, but knowing the attitudes of many photographers here, I wonder if that is the case. Already I have posted copyright violation notices on a handful of photos that were taken at ABQ. A search for "Airliners.net" among images yields 314 results, which is a bit much for me to go through and contact each photographer.

Interested photographers might want to check here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special...arch=Airliners.net&fulltext=Search

Sometimes the uploader will include the photographer's name in the description, so that may help narrow results.

Wikipedia's policy on copyright violations and how to respond are here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:CP

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User currently offlineSulman From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2035 posts, RR: 32
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6594 times:

The link tool on myphotos revealed that my AGP terminal picture is linked via the Malaga Airport Wiki.

To be honest, if it's wikipedia I'm not particularly bothered by it.



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User currently offlineMhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 6555 times:

I granted permission for an article on ZB to use one of my photos, the photo is no longer there though.


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User currently offlineQ330 From Australia, joined Dec 2003, 1460 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 6514 times:

Quoting Sulman (Reply 1):
The link tool on myphotos revealed that my AGP terminal picture is linked via the Malaga Airport Wiki.

To be honest, if it's wikipedia I'm not particularly bothered by it.

Linking is fine, and very different to someone taking your photo and presenting it as a free, public image.

-Q



Long live the A330!
User currently offlineAirbusA346 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 7437 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 6512 times:

And the A.net copyright bar has been taken off this image, and a nearly all the others, which I would say is a violation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bastiaan-smeets-airliners.net.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:P...ion-hannes-meyer-airliners.net.jpg

Tom.



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User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 6484 times:

Their names and the website name is still credited though so i'd hardly say it's a violation.

Obviously I think most of us would have issues with someone taking our photos and putting them in the free public domain without having asked permission first but provided permission is asked I don't have a real problem with it.


User currently offlineTomTurner From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 247 posts, RR: 18
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 6451 times:

I asked for one of mine to be properly credited or removed a few weeks ago.

Haven't checked back though; will take a look this evening.

Tom


User currently offlineTommy Mogren From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 912 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 6374 times:

I have been asked for permission on a couple of photos to be uploaded there, and granted permission.

So, it's all in order from my part.

Tommy Mogren



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User currently offlineHawaiian717 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3192 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 6307 times:

Quoting EGGD (Reply 5):
Their names and the website name is still credited though so i'd hardly say it's a violation.

That's not enough. Wikipedia requires text to be contributed under the GNU Free Documentation License, and images need to be under some sort of open license that allows commercial reuse.

What caught my attention though was that some photos had been posted, claiming the following:

Quote:
This image is copyrighted. The copyright holder has irrevocably released all rights to it, allowing it to be freely reproduced, distributed, transmitted, used, modified, built upon, or otherwise exploited in any way by anyone for any purpose, commercial or non-commercial, with or without attribution of the author.


I have no problems with Wikipedia, in fact I've been known to roam around there reading and editing when I get bored. But I thought this was something the photographers out to look at.

[Edited 2006-03-14 04:18:35]

User currently offlineTommy Mogren From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 912 posts, RR: 21
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 6227 times:

Quoting Hawaiian717 (Reply 8):
I thought this was something the photographers out to look at

Absolutely! Thanks for the heads up. I'll double check what it says around my
photos, that were uploaded with permission.


Tommy Mogren



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User currently offlineAirbusfanYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2002, 1434 posts, RR: 25
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 6046 times:

I was searching for something on wikipedia and happened upon my image being used withut my consent. Seems at least that the folks have identified the image as "possible copyright violation" yet the pic is still up.
I have emailed without any answer from the folks at wiki... any suggestions?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Indian_Airbus_A320.jpg

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Kaz



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User currently offlineHawaiian717 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3192 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6038 times:

Kaz,

There's a discussion regarding this photo at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiped...se_claims_needing_a_second_opinion

You ought to drop by and reinforce that you're the photographer and it was posted without your permission. It probably wouldn't hurt to also mention on the photo's discussion page that the photo was posted without your permission.

Wikipedia has a backlog of copyright violation issues, which can also explain the slow response. I've posted copyright violation notices on the images that got me to start this thread, but there hasn't been any action on those yet, either.


User currently offlineAirbusfanYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2002, 1434 posts, RR: 25
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 5968 times:

Thanks David,

I'll do that!

Cheers,
Kaz



t.dot photography
User currently offlineToptag From Austria, joined Jan 2005, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5861 times:

Thanks for the heads up. I gave permission to use this one on Wikipedia.


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User currently offlineFly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3149 posts, RR: 51
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5722 times:
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Quoting Hawaiian717 (Reply 8):
Wikipedia requires text to be contributed under the GNU Free Documentation License, and images need to be under some sort of open license that allows commercial reuse.

That's something I'm worrying about, as someone requested to use my photos for wikipedia. Wouldn't it open the door for freebies for all? Once more people realize they can get all they need at wikipedia for free, the a.net copyright becomes useless.



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User currently offlineQ330 From Australia, joined Dec 2003, 1460 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5699 times:

Quoting Fly-K (Reply 14):
Wouldn't it open the door for freebies for all? Once more people realize they can get all they need at wikipedia for free, the a.net copyright becomes useless.

There are already plenty of A.net photographers who give their photos away for free...  Yeah sure

-Q



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User currently offlineFly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3149 posts, RR: 51
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5688 times:
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I have given photos for free in single cases where I know where they end up, but in this case, you are inviting everyone to use your photo for free and you won't even know where it ends up!


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User currently offlineQ330 From Australia, joined Dec 2003, 1460 posts, RR: 21
Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5678 times:

Quoting Fly-K (Reply 16):
I have given photos for free in single cases where I know where they end up, but in this case, you are inviting everyone to use your photo for free and you won't even know where it ends up!

I see what you mean, and I've also given photos for free when appropriate, but many here still give away photos when they can and should be getting paid. However, I suppose releasing your images into the public domain is taking it a step further still.

-Q



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