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User currently offlineJohndm1957 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1691 times:

Had a few emails from a Mr Meng Queming in China,

"I am a Chinese aviation fan who editing a book of airplanes, it is the publication with my own personal name. Due to it is a professional book, so issue amount will be little. I need some airplane photographs in my book. I beg for some free photos (they are Photo ID: 0693322¡¢0638039¡¢0700244¡¢0913384¡¢0638040) from you under your permission. I will gift my new book to you with my best thanks. I am looking forward to hear from you.
Truly yours"


With a population of some 1,306,313,812, might he not sell just a few copies...?

Anyone else had requests from Mr Queming ?

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User currently offlineDendrobatid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1599 times:
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Quoting Johndm1957 (Thread starter):
Anyone else had requests from Mr Queming ?

I have got up this morning to a request for a long list from him.
My inclination is to say no, but, like John, wondered what others have decided to do.

Mick Bajcar


User currently offlinePipoA380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1594 times:

Hi,

I think it's a little bit easy to make a book under his own name with pictures everywhere that he got for free. What are we, sponsors?

I think I would decline the offer, or at least ask for compensation. Our work isn't free for people who make money be selling our pictures! Let's hope all who got a mail from him will decline, otherwise he'll just take the ones that were offered to him for free...

Just my 2cts.
Best regards
Philippe


User currently offlineNorfolkjohn From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1529 times:

I figured it was probably only a matter of time before I heard from this guy and the e-mail has just come in. I will be saying no, not least because he is looking for either a 10MB+ TIFF or a 2MB+ JPG which would allow him to make rather large size copies !

I'm not sure what he is up to but I'm not convinced it is just a book he is publishing.

John


User currently offlineDerekF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1501 times:

I got a request in my inbox this morning for a couple of pictures but I think I might decline this one. I did a google search for his name and came up with one link which didn't work. It appeared to be a reference to a book though.

Quoting PipoA380 (Reply 2):
Our work isn't free for people who make money be selling our pictures! Let's hope all who got a mail from him will decline, otherwise he'll just take the ones that were offered to him for free...

If I want to give away my pictures for free that is my choice and not for others to tell me what to do. So there!

Derek


User currently offlineAdamWright From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1479 times:

I too got an email from this gentleman. I told him I would help.. but after reading this thread.. I'm inclined to 'lose' his email  Wink

-Adam


User currently offlineViv From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1458 times:

Quoting PipoA380 (Reply 2):
Our work isn't free for people who make money be selling our pictures!

For me, photography is not work - I have a day job that pays me well.

If I want to give away a picture for free, I will do so. If I want to sell a picture, I will do so.

I speak for myself. Unlike you, I do not try to speak for others.


User currently offlineBrianW999 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1454 times:

Quoting Johndm1957 (Thread starter):
With a population of some 1,306,313,812, might he not sell just a few copies...?

......bearing in mind that only the last 812 would probably actually be able to AFFORD to buy a book........er.....No !


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User currently offlinePipoA380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1418 times:

Quoting DerekF (Reply 4):
If I want to give away my pictures for free that is my choice and not for others to tell me what to do. So there!

Absolutely but I'm sure a lot of people do not want to give away the pics for free... If you want to give your pictures, it is your choice. But in this case, the guy will sell a book and I personnaly wouldn't agree that the guy makes money on my back.

Quoting Viv (Reply 6):
I speak for myself. Unlike you, I do not try to speak for others.

This kind of comments is what makes these forums kind of scary sometimes. I didn't insult you or anything like that.... so please try to stay polite mate.


User currently offlineViv From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1415 times:

Quoting PipoA380 (Reply 8):
so please try to stay polite mate.

I am polite - and I am not your mate.

You said

Quoting DerekF (Reply 4):
Our work isn't free

Speak for yourself!

[Edited 2006-03-30 15:50:21]

User currently offlineJan Mogren From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1408 times:

Quoting Viv (Reply 9):
I am not your mate

Very polite indeed...

/JM


User currently offlineMalandan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 day ago) and read 1380 times:

Now, now children let's not fall out .... again!

I too received the second email requesting large size files and my view is that he ought to include the cost acquiring the photos he needs in his production costs.
Rather than "loosing" his email I have replied, politely refusing his request for freebies but pointing out that he ought to be prepared to pay a reasonable but negotiable amount.

Malcolm.


User currently offlineJohndm1957 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 21 hours ago) and read 1358 times:

Well, I sent him an email refusing any freebies last Sunday, but saying we might negotiate

Not even an acknowledgement from him....another freeloader..


User currently offlinePtrjong From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 20 hours ago) and read 1343 times:

I also received a message from Mr Meng. He must be requesting a huge number of photographs.

If he wanted to write an enthousiast's book about a difficult subject like, 'The Tupolev SB-2 in Chinese service', I'd tend to let him have a few of my pics.

However, these are the pictures he wants of me,

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and given the requested file size, it seems that he's producing a big book on the whole history of aviation that must be a decidedly commercial venture.

For such commercial ends, I want my pictures to be paid for. I'll inform Mr.Meng of this and I'd advise others to do the same in this case, even though I agree with Viv.

I'd be interested to see some of the other pics he wants.

Peter


User currently offlineDendrobatid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 20 hours ago) and read 1338 times:
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Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 13):
I'd be interested to see some of the other pics he wants.

These are some he wants from me....it will be a surprise to me too as I haven't even looked what they are !

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Now I see how varied they are, I wonder what kind of book he is producing !

Mick Bajcar


User currently offlineJohndm1957 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 19 hours ago) and read 1331 times:

A few of the dozen or so he wanted from me..

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User currently offlinePtrjong From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 19 hours ago) and read 1329 times:

Proves my point: coffee table book on the whole history of aviation. Not something an enthousiast would be likely to do, but rather a project to make money.

User currently offlineMalandan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 8 hours ago) and read 1301 times:


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Some of them.
Sent him an email regarding the question of payment but no response to date.

Malcolm.


User currently offlineDustySlides From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 1 hour ago) and read 1280 times:
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Yesterday I sent a short reply to Mr. Queming:

"Sorry, but I do not scan in such large sizes and do not
permit commercial use of my pictures."

This morning from him came;

"Thanks for your letter .Please tell me the price of each photograph, waiting for your reply.
Truly yours,
Meng Queming"

So for those of you interested, there is a mention of compensation.

Bob


User currently offlinePtrjong From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 1 hour ago) and read 1279 times:

Quoting Malandan (Reply 17):
Sent him an email regarding the question of payment but no response to date.



Quoting Malandan (Reply 17):
Sent him an email regarding the question of payment but no response

He states explicitly that he wants the pictures for free.

He needs one picture of a Vulcan, sends ten photographers his message in the hope of getting one.

In this case, although it's up to you, I do hope that nobody is giving his pictures away.


User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years ago) and read 1267 times:

I got an e-mail this week offering me 300 euros for one picture. I didn't have to ask for payment.

...That was however a reputable company.  Wink


What's he producing? The Illustrated Encyclopedia Britannica of Aircraft in 24 volumes???  boggled 


User currently offlinePtrjong From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 12 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1232 times:

Sorry, I didn't see Dusty's reply before posting my last.

I now got the same reply from Mr. Meng.

I'd be happy if the contacted a.net photographers could agree on a price.

Assuming Mr Meng is publishing in the PRC, the potential turnover of his book is rather large of course. On the other hand, copyright laws seem to be held in such low regard in China that expecting large sums is probably not realistic. My first thoughts are I'd be happy to settle for something between 50 and 100 euros, per picture, for use for this book title.

For some people here that might add op to a nice total amount.

What do you all think?

And would the site be willing to notify all the contacted photographers of this thread?

Quoting Dendrobatid (Reply 1):
I'm not sure what he is up to but I'm not convinced it is just a book he is publishing.

What sinister things could he be up to?


User currently offlineIL76 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 12 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1191 times:

I just got this mail aswell, asking... no... begging for free pictures of NW DC10's, a F86 Sabre and an IL96.

I just don't understand this sentence:  
Due to it is a professional book, so issue amount will be little.
Huh?   If it's a professional book, I expect it to printed in a considerable amount. Right? Why else would you have it done professionally?

Anyway, since he asked so politely, I will decline his request politely too.

E

PS, re-reading his mail again, I assume that with 'professional' he means it's a book for people in the aviation industry? And therefor the issue amount will be limited? I'll ask him for the issue amount first...

[Edited 2006-04-02 10:05:55]

User currently offlinePtrjong From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1159 times:

Any news on this, anyone?

Peter


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