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User currently offlineJohndm1957 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 141 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1672 times:

Had a few emails from a Mr Meng Queming in China,

"I am a Chinese aviation fan who editing a book of airplanes, it is the publication with my own personal name. Due to it is a professional book, so issue amount will be little. I need some airplane photographs in my book. I beg for some free photos (they are Photo ID: 0693322¡¢0638039¡¢0700244¡¢0913384¡¢0638040) from you under your permission. I will gift my new book to you with my best thanks. I am looking forward to hear from you.
Truly yours"


With a population of some 1,306,313,812, might he not sell just a few copies...?

Anyone else had requests from Mr Queming ?


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User currently offlineDendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1690 posts, RR: 62
Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 23 hours ago) and read 1580 times:
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Quoting Johndm1957 (Thread starter):
Anyone else had requests from Mr Queming ?

I have got up this morning to a request for a long list from him.
My inclination is to say no, but, like John, wondered what others have decided to do.

Mick Bajcar


User currently offlinePipoA380 From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 1594 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (8 years 9 months 23 hours ago) and read 1575 times:

Hi,

I think it's a little bit easy to make a book under his own name with pictures everywhere that he got for free. What are we, sponsors?

I think I would decline the offer, or at least ask for compensation. Our work isn't free for people who make money be selling our pictures! Let's hope all who got a mail from him will decline, otherwise he'll just take the ones that were offered to him for free...

Just my 2cts.
Best regards
Philippe



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User currently offlineNorfolkjohn From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 251 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1510 times:

I figured it was probably only a matter of time before I heard from this guy and the e-mail has just come in. I will be saying no, not least because he is looking for either a 10MB+ TIFF or a 2MB+ JPG which would allow him to make rather large size copies !

I'm not sure what he is up to but I'm not convinced it is just a book he is publishing.

John



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User currently offlineDerekF From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 914 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1482 times:

I got a request in my inbox this morning for a couple of pictures but I think I might decline this one. I did a google search for his name and came up with one link which didn't work. It appeared to be a reference to a book though.

Quoting PipoA380 (Reply 2):
Our work isn't free for people who make money be selling our pictures! Let's hope all who got a mail from him will decline, otherwise he'll just take the ones that were offered to him for free...

If I want to give away my pictures for free that is my choice and not for others to tell me what to do. So there!

Derek



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User currently offlineAdamWright From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1460 times:

I too got an email from this gentleman. I told him I would help.. but after reading this thread.. I'm inclined to 'lose' his email  Wink

-Adam


User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 28
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1439 times:

Quoting PipoA380 (Reply 2):
Our work isn't free for people who make money be selling our pictures!

For me, photography is not work - I have a day job that pays me well.

If I want to give away a picture for free, I will do so. If I want to sell a picture, I will do so.

I speak for myself. Unlike you, I do not try to speak for others.



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User currently offlineBrianW999 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 312 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1435 times:

Quoting Johndm1957 (Thread starter):
With a population of some 1,306,313,812, might he not sell just a few copies...?

......bearing in mind that only the last 812 would probably actually be able to AFFORD to buy a book........er.....No !


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User currently offlinePipoA380 From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 1594 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1399 times:

Quoting DerekF (Reply 4):
If I want to give away my pictures for free that is my choice and not for others to tell me what to do. So there!

Absolutely but I'm sure a lot of people do not want to give away the pics for free... If you want to give your pictures, it is your choice. But in this case, the guy will sell a book and I personnaly wouldn't agree that the guy makes money on my back.

Quoting Viv (Reply 6):
I speak for myself. Unlike you, I do not try to speak for others.

This kind of comments is what makes these forums kind of scary sometimes. I didn't insult you or anything like that.... so please try to stay polite mate.



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User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1396 times:

Quoting PipoA380 (Reply 8):
so please try to stay polite mate.

I am polite - and I am not your mate.

You said

Quoting DerekF (Reply 4):
Our work isn't free

Speak for yourself!

[Edited 2006-03-30 15:50:21]


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User currently offlineJan Mogren From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 2043 posts, RR: 50
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1389 times:

Quoting Viv (Reply 9):
I am not your mate

Very polite indeed...

/JM



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User currently offlineMalandan From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 380 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1361 times:

Now, now children let's not fall out .... again!

I too received the second email requesting large size files and my view is that he ought to include the cost acquiring the photos he needs in his production costs.
Rather than "loosing" his email I have replied, politely refusing his request for freebies but pointing out that he ought to be prepared to pay a reasonable but negotiable amount.

Malcolm.



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User currently offlineJohndm1957 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1339 times:

Well, I sent him an email refusing any freebies last Sunday, but saying we might negotiate

Not even an acknowledgement from him....another freeloader..



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User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 4005 posts, RR: 18
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1324 times:

I also received a message from Mr Meng. He must be requesting a huge number of photographs.

If he wanted to write an enthousiast's book about a difficult subject like, 'The Tupolev SB-2 in Chinese service', I'd tend to let him have a few of my pics.

However, these are the pictures he wants of me,

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and given the requested file size, it seems that he's producing a big book on the whole history of aviation that must be a decidedly commercial venture.

For such commercial ends, I want my pictures to be paid for. I'll inform Mr.Meng of this and I'd advise others to do the same in this case, even though I agree with Viv.

I'd be interested to see some of the other pics he wants.

Peter



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User currently offlineDendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1690 posts, RR: 62
Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1319 times:
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Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 13):
I'd be interested to see some of the other pics he wants.

These are some he wants from me....it will be a surprise to me too as I haven't even looked what they are !

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Now I see how varied they are, I wonder what kind of book he is producing !

Mick Bajcar


User currently offlineJohndm1957 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1312 times:

A few of the dozen or so he wanted from me..

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User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 4005 posts, RR: 18
Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1310 times:

Proves my point: coffee table book on the whole history of aviation. Not something an enthousiast would be likely to do, but rather a project to make money.


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User currently offlineMalandan From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 380 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1282 times:


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Some of them.
Sent him an email regarding the question of payment but no response to date.

Malcolm.



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User currently offlineDustySlides From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 59 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1261 times:
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Yesterday I sent a short reply to Mr. Queming:

"Sorry, but I do not scan in such large sizes and do not
permit commercial use of my pictures."

This morning from him came;

"Thanks for your letter .Please tell me the price of each photograph, waiting for your reply.
Truly yours,
Meng Queming"

So for those of you interested, there is a mention of compensation.

Bob



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User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 4005 posts, RR: 18
Reply 19, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1260 times:

Quoting Malandan (Reply 17):
Sent him an email regarding the question of payment but no response to date.



Quoting Malandan (Reply 17):
Sent him an email regarding the question of payment but no response

He states explicitly that he wants the pictures for free.

He needs one picture of a Vulcan, sends ten photographers his message in the hope of getting one.

In this case, although it's up to you, I do hope that nobody is giving his pictures away.



The only difference between me and a madman is that I am not mad (Salvador Dali)
User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1248 times:

I got an e-mail this week offering me 300 euros for one picture. I didn't have to ask for payment.

...That was however a reputable company.  Wink


What's he producing? The Illustrated Encyclopedia Britannica of Aircraft in 24 volumes???  boggled 


User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 4005 posts, RR: 18
Reply 21, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1213 times:

Sorry, I didn't see Dusty's reply before posting my last.

I now got the same reply from Mr. Meng.

I'd be happy if the contacted a.net photographers could agree on a price.

Assuming Mr Meng is publishing in the PRC, the potential turnover of his book is rather large of course. On the other hand, copyright laws seem to be held in such low regard in China that expecting large sums is probably not realistic. My first thoughts are I'd be happy to settle for something between 50 and 100 euros, per picture, for use for this book title.

For some people here that might add op to a nice total amount.

What do you all think?

And would the site be willing to notify all the contacted photographers of this thread?

Quoting Dendrobatid (Reply 1):
I'm not sure what he is up to but I'm not convinced it is just a book he is publishing.

What sinister things could he be up to?



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User currently offlineIL76 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2004, 2239 posts, RR: 48
Reply 22, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1172 times:

I just got this mail aswell, asking... no... begging for free pictures of NW DC10's, a F86 Sabre and an IL96.

I just don't understand this sentence:  
Due to it is a professional book, so issue amount will be little.
Huh?   If it's a professional book, I expect it to printed in a considerable amount. Right? Why else would you have it done professionally?

Anyway, since he asked so politely, I will decline his request politely too.

E

PS, re-reading his mail again, I assume that with 'professional' he means it's a book for people in the aviation industry? And therefor the issue amount will be limited? I'll ask him for the issue amount first...

[Edited 2006-04-02 10:05:55]

User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 4005 posts, RR: 18
Reply 23, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1140 times:

Any news on this, anyone?

Peter



The only difference between me and a madman is that I am not mad (Salvador Dali)
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