Johndm1957 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 141 posts, RR: 0 Posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1303 times:
Had a few emails from a Mr Meng Queming in China,
"I am a Chinese aviation fan who editing a book of airplanes, it is the publication with my own personal name. Due to it is a professional book, so issue amount will be little. I need some airplane photographs in my book. I beg for some free photos (they are Photo ID: 0693322¡¢0638039¡¢0700244¡¢0913384¡¢0638040) from you under your permission. I will gift my new book to you with my best thanks. I am looking forward to hear from you.
Truly yours"
With a population of some 1,306,313,812, might he not sell just a few copies...?
Dendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1606 posts, RR: 64 Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1211 times:
I have got up this morning to a request for a long list from him.
My inclination is to say no, but, like John, wondered what others have decided to do.
PipoA380 From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 1591 posts, RR: 52 Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1206 times:
Hi,
I think it's a little bit easy to make a book under his own name with pictures everywhere that he got for free. What are we, sponsors?
I think I would decline the offer, or at least ask for compensation. Our work isn't free for people who make money be selling our pictures! Let's hope all who got a mail from him will decline, otherwise he'll just take the ones that were offered to him for free...
Just my 2cts.
Best regards
Philippe
It's not about AIRBUS. it's not about BOEING. It's all about the beauty of FLYING.
Norfolkjohn From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 251 posts, RR: 8 Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1141 times:
I figured it was probably only a matter of time before I heard from this guy and the e-mail has just come in. I will be saying no, not least because he is looking for either a 10MB+ TIFF or a 2MB+ JPG which would allow him to make rather large size copies !
I'm not sure what he is up to but I'm not convinced it is just a book he is publishing.
John
One thorn of experience is worth a whole wilderness of warning.
DerekF From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 824 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1113 times:
I got a request in my inbox this morning for a couple of pictures but I think I might decline this one. I did a google search for his name and came up with one link which didn't work. It appeared to be a reference to a book though.
Quoting PipoA380 (Reply 2): Our work isn't free for people who make money be selling our pictures! Let's hope all who got a mail from him will decline, otherwise he'll just take the ones that were offered to him for free...
If I want to give away my pictures for free that is my choice and not for others to tell me what to do. So there!
PipoA380 From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 1591 posts, RR: 52 Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1030 times:
Quoting DerekF (Reply 4): If I want to give away my pictures for free that is my choice and not for others to tell me what to do. So there!
Absolutely but I'm sure a lot of people do not want to give away the pics for free... If you want to give your pictures, it is your choice. But in this case, the guy will sell a book and I personnaly wouldn't agree that the guy makes money on my back.
Quoting Viv (Reply 6): I speak for myself. Unlike you, I do not try to speak for others.
This kind of comments is what makes these forums kind of scary sometimes. I didn't insult you or anything like that.... so please try to stay polite mate.
It's not about AIRBUS. it's not about BOEING. It's all about the beauty of FLYING.
Malandan From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 380 posts, RR: 16 Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 992 times:
Now, now children let's not fall out .... again!
I too received the second email requesting large size files and my view is that he ought to include the cost acquiring the photos he needs in his production costs.
Rather than "loosing" his email I have replied, politely refusing his request for freebies but pointing out that he ought to be prepared to pay a reasonable but negotiable amount.
Malcolm.
My interest lies in the future as I am going to spend the rest of my life there!
Ptrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3779 posts, RR: 20 Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 955 times:
I also received a message from Mr Meng. He must be requesting a huge number of photographs.
If he wanted to write an enthousiast's book about a difficult subject like, 'The Tupolev SB-2 in Chinese service', I'd tend to let him have a few of my pics.
and given the requested file size, it seems that he's producing a big book on the whole history of aviation that must be a decidedly commercial venture.
For such commercial ends, I want my pictures to be paid for. I'll inform Mr.Meng of this and I'd advise others to do the same in this case, even though I agree with Viv.
I'd be interested to see some of the other pics he wants.
Peter
The only difference between me and a madman is that I am not mad (Salvador Dali)
Dendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1606 posts, RR: 64 Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 950 times:
Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 13): I'd be interested to see some of the other pics he wants.
These are some he wants from me....it will be a surprise to me too as I haven't even looked what they are !
Ptrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3779 posts, RR: 20 Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 941 times:
Proves my point: coffee table book on the whole history of aviation. Not something an enthousiast would be likely to do, but rather a project to make money.
The only difference between me and a madman is that I am not mad (Salvador Dali)
DustySlides From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 59 posts, RR: 11 Reply 18, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 892 times:
Yesterday I sent a short reply to Mr. Queming:
"Sorry, but I do not scan in such large sizes and do not
permit commercial use of my pictures."
This morning from him came;
"Thanks for your letter .Please tell me the price of each photograph, waiting for your reply.
Truly yours,
Meng Queming"
So for those of you interested, there is a mention of compensation.
Ptrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3779 posts, RR: 20 Reply 21, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 844 times:
Sorry, I didn't see Dusty's reply before posting my last.
I now got the same reply from Mr. Meng.
I'd be happy if the contacted a.net photographers could agree on a price.
Assuming Mr Meng is publishing in the PRC, the potential turnover of his book is rather large of course. On the other hand, copyright laws seem to be held in such low regard in China that expecting large sums is probably not realistic. My first thoughts are I'd be happy to settle for something between 50 and 100 euros, per picture, for use for this book title.
For some people here that might add op to a nice total amount.
What do you all think?
And would the site be willing to notify all the contacted photographers of this thread?
Quoting Dendrobatid (Reply 1): I'm not sure what he is up to but I'm not convinced it is just a book he is publishing.
What sinister things could he be up to?
The only difference between me and a madman is that I am not mad (Salvador Dali)
IL76 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2004, 2235 posts, RR: 51 Reply 22, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 803 times:
I just got this mail aswell, asking... no... begging for free pictures of NW DC10's, a F86 Sabre and an IL96.
I just don't understand this sentence: Due to it is a professional book, so issue amount will be little.
Huh? If it's a professional book, I expect it to printed in a considerable amount. Right? Why else would you have it done professionally?
Anyway, since he asked so politely, I will decline his request politely too.
E
PS, re-reading his mail again, I assume that with 'professional' he means it's a book for people in the aviation industry? And therefor the issue amount will be limited? I'll ask him for the issue amount first...
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If it's a professional book, I expect it to printed in a considerable amount. Right? Why else would you have it done professionally?
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