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Any Thoughts On Improving These Shots?  
User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 10012 posts, RR: 54
Posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1257 times:

Hello again,

I have these two shots in the queue, and I'd love some advice on improving them.

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...eady/DTW_032506_G-BNWD_DSC1150.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/DTW_031806_N9401W_DSC_0733.jpg

I think I have two distinct problems: the first one was shot on an overcast day (trying to get the maximum smoke kicking up) and the second is my first attempt at the silver birds of AA. Your thoughts are greatly appreciated!

Damon

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User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1253 times:

Shot 1: Grain
Shot 2: Not level

User currently offlineCosec59 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1249 times:

Quoting D L X (Thread starter):
I'd love some advice on improving them.



Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 1):
Shot 1: Grain
Shot 2: Not level

And your ADVICE on improving them?

User currently offlineP2philip From Austria, joined Jan 2005, 97 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1249 times:

Hi Damon!

I'm afraid the first one does not have a chance because it is blurry, especially around the rear - better pull this one from the queue!

The second photo is much better in terms of quality, I dont see a problem with the way the AA silver turned out.
Anyway, I would rotate it a bit ccw until the poles and buildings in the back are vertical and center the aircraft better with a different crop. The plane is a bit low in the frame now.
I think you won't have a problem getting the second photo into the database once the two issues above have been solved.

Good Luck!

User currently offlineDRAIGONAIR From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 705 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1236 times:

heey,

yeh i agree the last shot needs some CCW (maybe 1.5) and not sure how your origional photo is but try to get them more in the center..
Im affraid the BA shot is a lost cause mate!
Good luck

Nick


cheers
User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 10012 posts, RR: 54
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1213 times:

Thanks for the thoughts.

That's too bad about the BA. That tail design looks out of focus when it's sharp even, let alone from across the tarmac.

Also, thanks for the thoughts on the AA/NK planes. I actually lined up the shots vertically aligned to the hangar doors. I think those poles are actually not vertical, or I'm suffering some barrel distortion. I didn't want to put the two planes higher in the shot because the concrete roadway below the frame is uninteresting and distracting. Do you think I can leave it there, working by the rule of thirds?

Thanks again!

User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 55
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1205 times:

Quoting D L X (Thread starter):
I have these two shots in the queue, and I'd love some advice on improving them.

I would open up your lens a stop, and/or just slow your shutter down a bit. They are somewhat dark.

User currently offlineDC10Tim From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1399 posts, RR: 18
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1192 times:

Quoting JeffM (Reply 6):
I would open up your lens a stop, and/or just slow your shutter down a bit. They are somewhat dark.

Jeff, would you care to elaborate a bit? The second one looks ok in terms of exposure on my screen.

Regards,

Tim.


Obviously missing something....
User currently offlineP2philip From Austria, joined Jan 2005, 97 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1160 times:

yeah, looks ok in terms of brightness here too.

Damon, you should definitely level it, I am afraid it wont get in like this!

User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3053 posts, RR: 35
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1156 times:

The first one is not sharply focussed - can't be fixed.

The second one needs ccw rotation. Use the Measure tool in Photoshop, followed by "Rotate canvas - arbitrary".


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User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 10012 posts, RR: 54
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1124 times:

Bad news, good news and bad news about the first shot: the bad news is it is blurry. The good news is it is not my fault. The bad news is I just had to put my camera in the shop for a hardware focussing problem. $270. Ouch.

So, basically, all my shots are blurry, but the ones where I could fill up the frame don't suffer so much when I scale them down.

So, the BA767 is getting removed.  Sad

As for the other one, I straightened it as per your suggestions. I've also made two versions, one with EC +1 and one the way it is. Which do you think I should upload?

Thanks again,
Damon


http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e199/D_L_X/DTW%20Mar18/DTW_031806_N9401W_DSC_0733_1.jpg


http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e199/D_L_X/DTW%20Mar18/DTW_031806_N9401W_DSC_0733_0.jpg

User currently offlineP2philip From Austria, joined Jan 2005, 97 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1119 times:

The first one is too bright for my liking, I'd go for the second one or something in between.

User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3053 posts, RR: 35
Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1119 times:

The second one is better.


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User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 10012 posts, RR: 54
Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1047 times:

Rejected. Reason: personal and angle.
http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/...05_DTW_031806_N9401W_DSC_07332.jpg

Now, I rotated it as you all suggested, and the screener still says CCW rotation needed. How much? I still think that if you're basing it off the light poles in the background, the whole shot will be unlevel. Those poles are not vertical. What to do?

original here: http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...r18/DTW_031806_N9401W_DSC_0733.jpg

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