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User currently offlineCosmic From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4590 times:

Hi all,

yes, its another thread from me asking for help  Wink

As some of you may know, I am currently in the process of upgrading my Camera. I've decided on the Canon 300D after quite a long time searching and considering different factors etc... I should selling my FZ5 soon, and hopefully will have the new Camera pretty soon!

but that's only half the story...

I am having quite a bit of trouble on the lens selection side of it. I know the 18-55 lens which will come with the Camera will be good quality, but for Aviation Photography I know that you do need a longer zoom. Now, I would be quite happy with something equivalent to 8x Optical zoom (about 300mm yeah?), and feel I would get by with that.

So I've been looking at 75-300mm Canon Lenses.

Now I will say at this point my budget for the lens is restricted to about £110. I know that good quality = megabucks, but I have been given some information about a few lenses for £100.

First One is Canon 75-300 EF III. I've been reading some threads on Airliners.net about this lens, and it seems that the feedback is that it is average? Though at the moment it seems the most financially viable.
I was wondering what your feedback on this lens is?

The problem I face is that if I can't afford to get my hands on a lens which will take better Photos than my current FZ5, is there much point? After all, there is only so much I can do with a 18-55 lens.

Sorry about going on and on and on...

I hope someone can be of some help, and I know these threads get quite monotonous, but I am trying to get as much information as I can, and information from People using theit cameras for the same things as me is very valuable.

So, any views? What other lenses would be a good idea to consider?

phew. (until next time  Wink )

Cosmic

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User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4581 times:

Quoting Cosmic (Thread starter):
if I can't afford to get my hands on a lens which will take better Photos than my current FZ5, is there much point?

Personally, I don't think so. I think the 70-300 with IS is about £369.

There are some superb SLR style digital point and shoot cameras now. Might be better off getting one of those to be honest if you can't afford the lens. Either that or some companies like warehouse express offer interest free credit over 6 or 9 months.


User currently offlineLinco22 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1380 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4581 times:

Hi Cosmic, I would try to pick up a second hand EF 75-300mm III USM if you need to stick tightly to your budget. Otherwise you might want to save a bit extra and either but a brand new one(you may be able to get close to £110 if you look hard enough).

Regards
Colin  Smile


User currently offlineStaffan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4570 times:

I'd also go for a used lens if I were on such a tight budget. A used 75-300 USM in pretty good condition shouldn't set you back more than about 100 Euros.

User currently offlineCosmic From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4567 times:

Hi 9VSPO,

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 1):
Personally, I don't think so. I think the 70-300 with IS is about £369.

Phew, the 300Ds are going for that lol. BUT, I've seen these lenses in action, and there results, and they are clearly worth every penny. Just not at the moment unfortunately for me, thought there is always a chance of an upgrade in the future.

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 1):
There are some superb SLR style digital point and shoot cameras now. Might be better off getting one of those to be honest if you can't afford the lens. Either that or some companies like warehouse express offer interest free credit over 6 or 9 months.

I would be a bit sceptical about going for a SLR style point and shoot myself, just because I've used my FZ5 for a year, and really want to get my hands on a DSLR, (not being funny or ignorant). What is a good idea for me though is your second point, spreading the cost over a period of time. A very good idea, and I will look into that. Thanks!

Quoting Linco22 (Reply 2):
Hi Cosmic, I would try to pick up a second hand EF 75-300mm III USM if you need to stick tightly to your budget. Otherwise you might want to save a bit extra and either but a brand new one(you may be able to get close to £110 if you look hard enough).

Hi Colin,

Is the 'EF 75-300mm III USM' the one I mentioned originally? I don't think it is with the addition of the USM, what is that exactly?

Quoting Staffan (Reply 3):
I'd also go for a used lens if I were on such a tight budget. A used 75-300 USM in pretty good condition shouldn't set you back more than about 100 Euros.

Hi Staffan,

Thanks for this help. The USM model is different to the one I originally stated isn't it?

Thanks for the help guys. This information is really valued!

I know it is frustrating with some restrictions, but if I bugger up my choice of lens I'm going to be left with something I'm not happy with, thats why I'm going to make the right choice Big grin

I can still get Airliners.net shots with my FZ5, (got 2 accepted yesterday), but I have been awfully frustrated lately with my Cameras AF and the zoom toggle!

Thanks,
Cosmic


User currently offlineStaffan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4553 times:

Quoting Cosmic (Reply 4):
The USM model is different to the one I originally stated isn't it?

Yes there is a 75-300 III without USM that is a little cheaper. USM is the type of focusing motor the lens uses, optically I think they are pretty similar. So if the price is right on either of them you shouldn't be disappointed.


User currently offlineCosmic From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4547 times:

Hi Staffan.

Thanks for that info, I've just been checking some prices, and found out I've been looking at the USM model anyway! Of-course its what the 'Ultrasonic' means on the lens, hence 'Ultrasonic motor'. Should be about the right price aswell.

Thanks for the help.  Smile

Does anyone have any Photos on here taken with this lens?

Thanks,
Cosmic


User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4541 times:



The EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM is currently £369 on warehouse express. They might do interest free on it, I don't know to be honest but I wouldn't get anything less than that if you are serious about upgrading what you have.


User currently offlineStaffan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4525 times:

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 7):
The EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM is currently £369 on warehouse express. They might do interest free on it, I don't know to be honest but I wouldn't get anything less than that if you are serious about upgrading what you have.

Are you aware of his age? £370 for a 13-15 year old is a lot of money, and I doubt any retailer will offer financing to someone that age. A non IS 75-300 serve most more than well and if he gets a used one he won't have lost much (if any) money they day he dicides to sell it in favor for something better.


User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4522 times:

Quoting Staffan (Reply 8):
Are you aware of his age?

No, but because of his budget that's why I suggested a DSLR style point and shoot. My advice is, he shouldn't be buying a DSLR at all if he can't afford the lens he wants!

[Edited 2006-04-03 22:56:23]

User currently offlineStaffan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4517 times:

There's a world of a difference between shooting with a point and shoot and an SLR that allows you to add to yor kit as you go along which makes more sense in the long run.

User currently offlineStaffan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4515 times:

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 9):
My advice is, he shouldn't be buying a DSLR at all if he can't afford the lens he wants!

Who said he wants an IS lens? He asked about the non IS one. I want a 300/2.8 IS, should I get a point & shoot until I can afford one?


User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4515 times:

Quoting Staffan (Reply 10):
There's a world of a difference between shooting with a point and shoot and an SLR

Especially if you can't afford it!


User currently offlineAirbusA346 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 7437 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4509 times:

Why not go for the Sigma version it is a bit cheaper.

Tom.



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User currently offlineStaffan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4509 times:

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 12):
Especially if you can't afford it!

Read his post again, he is on a budget and is getting a 300d with kit lens and an additional lens for £110. Who says he can't affor that? You are the one bringing more expensive lenses into the discussion.


User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4502 times:

Quoting Staffan (Reply 14):
You are the one bringing more expensive lenses into the discussion.

Because unless you want to spend more money you can get just as good results with a point and shoot, with the right camera!


User currently offlineStaffan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4499 times:

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 15):
Because unless you want to spend more money you can get just as good results with a point and shoot, with the right camera!

Results will probably be about the same with a good P&S and a 300d with a cheap lens, but it's ten times (at least) more enjoyable to shoot with an SLR. What if you want to shoot portraits with a short DOF, how easy is it to set focus on the eyes with a P&S compared with manual focus on an SLR? Picture quality isn't everything.

Plus the fact that when more money comes in, upgrades for an SLR system are cheaper than having to sell a P&S and buying a newer one. Resell values for P&S aren't good... at all..

May I ask what lens you use since the 70-300 IS is the only one good enough for a 13-15 year old?


User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4491 times:

Quoting Staffan (Reply 16):
May I ask what lens you use

100-400IS but that's not the point! A point and shoot for a 15 year old is more than enough to start out. There are some excellent one's out there. I was using a Sony F717 point and shoot when I was 34! And most of my pics in the database are with that!

All I'm saying is if he cant afford a decent lens then go for a decent point and shoot.

[Edited 2006-04-03 23:44:00]

User currently offlineStaffan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4487 times:

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 17):
A point and shoot for a 15 year old is more than enough to start out.

He already has a P&S and wants to upgrade, why not get an SLR? He says he can afford it.

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 17):
There are some excellent one's out there.

Sure there are but I doubt few of them will give more bang for the buck than a 300d with a 75-300.


User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4483 times:

Quoting Staffan (Reply 18):
Sure there are but I doubt few of them will give more bang for the buck than a 300d with a 75-300

Ok you win. Big grin

 white 


User currently offlineCosmic From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4473 times:

AirbusA346, I have considered the Sigma's at times yes.  Smile

Both of you, 9VSPO and Staffan put forward your arguments well. I'd just like to clear up that I do currently have a P&S that I got last May. It's the Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ5 with 12x Optical Zoom, IS and 5 Mega Pixels. It has served me really well, with 35 (and hopefully more) Photos in the Gallery so far, but I am just finding a few things frustrating with it, and feel that I have shown that I am going to take my Photography seriously enough over the last year to warrant a DSLR.

Staffan, your advice has been really useful, and indeed I can upgrade at the later date to an IS model if needs be. Thanks for your help!

I will keep you all updated on this situation and if would like to add some more, please feel free. I value your input.

Thanks,
Cosmic


User currently offlineKukkudrill From Malta, joined Dec 2004, 1123 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (8 years 9 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4472 times:

Quoting Cosmic (Reply 6):
Does anyone have any Photos on here taken with this lens?

Most of my uploads since last December were shot with the 75-300mm III USM mounted on a 350D. Here are a couple of examples:

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I got the lens as a cheap stop-gap until the day I can afford a better lens. It has its limitations -- it gets soft wide open and at full zoom -- but it does the business. This lens on an SLR is still a big improvement on my old point-and-shoot.

Charles



Make the most of the available light ... a lesson of photography that applies to life
User currently offlineCosmic From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 9 months 18 hours ago) and read 4432 times:

Hi,

Great shots Charles, I especially like the Alitalia one. Thanks for your help. Big grin
Cosmic


User currently offlineCosmic From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4353 times:

Hi All,

Having a few second thoughts about the Canon 75-300 USM Mk3 after reading some awful reviews online. Whats to be said about the Sigma lenses?

I'm currently looking at

SIGMA 70-300mm F4-5.6 DG MACRO
SIGMA 70-300mm F4-5.6 APO DG MACRO

What do these lenses perform like?

Thanks, any help greatly recieved.
Cosmic


User currently offlineDC10Tim From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1406 posts, RR: 14
Reply 24, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4349 times:

Hi Ryan,

You could try something like a Tamron 28-300 XR DI. I have one which I bought with the 300D. To be fair I don't use it a great deal now I have the IS lens, but for all its critics, it's a nice lens for the money and you would get some cracking shots with it. The other thing is to try second-hand. I was looking at a Sigma 50-500 a few months back and saw one that had hardly been used for £200 less than the list price (still couldn't afford it though  )

Regards,

Tim.

Edit: slight pricing error  Wink

[Edited 2006-04-10 02:44:30]


Obviously missing something....
25 Post contains images Cosmic : Hi Tim, Nice hearing from you. The lens will be mounted on a 300D here aswell. I've sold my current Camera (and decided on a new one), and I am curren
26 Post contains images Willo : My pictures in the database from June 05 to March have been shot using this lens and a 300D. In reviews it came out head and shoulders above the comp
27 LGW : Andrew, How are you enjoying your EX 100-300? Its a cracking piece of glass Cheers Ben
28 Post contains links and images Cosmic : Thanks for this information. I have taken a look at your Photos during that date, and they are very good, clearly this lens is able. Now I just have
29 Post contains images Cosmic : Hi all, thanks for the help so far. I'm torn between the Canon D60 and 300D. Which one would be a better buy? I've read reviews and got user opinions
30 JayDavis : The 300D, isn't it a newer camera?
31 Post contains images Cosmic : I've seen a good deal on eBay on a D60 with quite a nice kit... was just wondering... Another question, what is this about the shutter failing? I've
32 LGW : Cosmic, I really think the D60 must be close to having a dead shutter, I cantr speak for the individual body but when were they released, 2002 or so?
33 Cosmic : Hi Ben, Yeah, I'm glad ive read up on this issue. This one I'm looking at is 18 months old, if that helps? Also, can anything be done about a dead shu
34 Staffan : The 10D was discontinued 18 months ago, the D60 was discontinued when the 10D was introduced which was 18 months earlier. So I doubt there are any D6
35 Post contains images Flyingzacko : I'm actually using a Canon 300D + Tamron 28-300 XR DI. For what it costs it is very satisfying. Obviously it will be soft at the far end, but for the
36 Post contains images Cosmic : Yeah he got it 2 years ago I've found out, the D60 I'm looking at comes with a lot of accessories, but as it's on ebay, I wont get my hopes up! I've
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