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Rejected. Not Rare Enough?  
User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11210 posts, RR: 52
Posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1953 times:

On a recent swing by DTW on a dreary day, I snagged this shot:

http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/...404_KDTW_032506_N664AW_DSC1042.jpg

I know it's not the greatest shot of any old 320 due to the lighting, but I edited it and uploaded anyway because it has US Airways' new colors, but an America West engine cowling. I'd never seen a mismatch before, and figured it to be somewhat rare. To me, it has a little bit of a storytelling element with the merger.

Is this not rare enough for a.net? Should I consider an appeal?

Thanks!

[Edited 2006-04-04 05:09:40]


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User currently offlineFlightShadow From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 950 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1936 times:

Saw this guy in SLC a few weeks back.

http://myaviation.net/search/photo_search.php?id=00597644

It now has a matching cowling (according to photos in the db) which leads me to believe that it is a rare photo (and does tell a cool story!), so if I were you I'd try an appeal, even though it's not great quality.

[Edited 2006-04-04 05:36:26]

[Edited 2006-04-04 05:37:28]


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User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11210 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1821 times:

Does a rejection-appeal-rejection count twice against your acceptance ratio?

(Kinda sucks that I'd have to consider that in my calculus of appeal/don't appeal. It would be like a suspect being convicted at trial and sentenced for 10 years with the note that if he appeals and loses, the sentence goes to 20 years.)



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User currently offlineJumboJim747 From Australia, joined Oct 2004, 2464 posts, RR: 44
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1796 times:
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Quoting D L X (Reply 2):
Does a rejection-appeal-rejection count twice against your acceptance ratio?

Yes it does .
For the simple reason if it didn't people will appeal every rejection they get.
I would personally take the chance and put the comment for the screener about the cowling.
Cheers



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User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11210 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1725 times:

Upon appeal, it was rejected again, with no comment.

*sigh*



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User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11210 posts, RR: 52
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1701 times:

I made a new version. Do you guys think it fares a better chance?

New version:
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...5/DTW_032506_N664AW_DSC1042_2.jpg


Old version:
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...425/DTW_032506_N664AW_DSC1042.jpg

[Edited 2006-04-06 19:30:27]


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User currently offlinePhilhyde From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 678 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1685 times:

Quoting JumboJim747 (Reply 3):
Yes it does .
For the simple reason if it didn't people will appeal every rejection they get.
I would personally take the chance and put the comment for the screener about the cowling.
Cheers

Are you sure about that? Is this policy stated anywhere? I was not able to find anything in the FAQ or the appeal page regarding a rejected appeal double-counting.

cheers,
Phil



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User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11210 posts, RR: 52
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1672 times:

Quoting Philhyde (Reply 6):
I was not able to find anything in the FAQ or the appeal page regarding a rejected appeal double-counting.

My acceptance rate dropped when the appeal was rejected.



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User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1671 times:

Quoting D L X (Reply 7):
My acceptance rate dropped when the appeal was rejected

And that actually bothers you? Oh dear, might as well just end it now LOL.


 Big grin


User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11210 posts, RR: 52
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1663 times:

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 8):
And that actually bothers you?

Shouldn't it? I'd like to get to a point where I can upload more than 5 at a time.

But in any event, I was just answering his comment, confirming that a rejected appeal counts again against your acceptance ratio.



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User currently offlineSA006 From South Africa, joined Sep 2003, 1883 posts, RR: 55
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1631 times:

Well , what was the rejection reason in the first place?

-SA006



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User currently offlineJumboJim747 From Australia, joined Oct 2004, 2464 posts, RR: 44
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1625 times:
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Quoting Philhyde (Reply 6):
Are you sure about that?

100% sure about it .
I'm talking from experience its happened to me .  Smile

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 8):
And that actually bothers you? Oh dear, might as well just end it now LOL.

Ian to me it doesn't bother me as such but as we have it now its like a challenge more or less so we strive to get our acceptance as high as possibler.
Cheers

Damon i love this shot and think it has a lot of potential.
A better edit will sure give it a chance.
Screeners are very quiet in the forums lately.
I know they are busy screening shots and good on them.
Cheers



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User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1618 times:

Quoting JumboJim747 (Reply 11):
but as we have it now its like a challenge more or less so we strive to get our acceptance as high as possibler.

I know, I was being flippant (just my dark humour), just ignore me.  Smile


User currently offlineMikephotos From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2923 posts, RR: 54
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1610 times:

Quoting D L X (Thread starter):
Is this not rare enough for a.net?

It's not that rare, it happens often enough. You'll get mismatched cowlings, nosecones, winglets, doors and other bodily parts.

Mike


User currently offlineZSOFN From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1413 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1579 times:

Quoting D L X (Reply 5):
I made a new version. Do you guys think it fares a better chance?

New version:
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1....5/DTW_032506_N664AW_DSC1042_2.jpg


Old version:
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...2.jpg

I'm not a very experienced photographer but I would say that actually the new version is no better - you've increased the brightness too far and as a result you've got some serious noise issues in the darker areas e.g. bottom of the fuse and engines.

To be honest I don't think this shot will make it in, mainly on account of it being so backlit. Shame though...


User currently offlinePhilhyde From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 678 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1525 times:

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 8):
Quoting D L X (Reply 7):
My acceptance rate dropped when the appeal was rejected

And that actually bothers you?

I think it is unfair (and not to mention overly bureaucratic) to be double-penalized when an appeal is rejected. Especially since this fact is not mentioned in the FAQ or on the appeal page. What is mentioned, however, is that overuse of the appeal page will result in it being closed. This, in addition to the threat of getting banned, should serve as enough of a deterrent.



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