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Canon EF 70-300mm F/4-5.6 Is USM Review Wanted  
User currently offlineDeaphen From India, joined Jul 2005, 1427 posts, RR: 1
Posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 7258 times:

Hey guys,

I have been using the canon powershot pro 1 with the teleconverter lens for a while now and have been delighted with it. I am proud to say that i have just purchased the Rebel Xt (350d) with the Canon EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM lens. I wanted to know what you guys think about that lens. I choose this because of its relatively cheaper price and the IS.

I have another question, i have lots of heavies flying over my house and i like photographing them, till now, i have been using my powershot pro 1 and have got these results,


as u can see they are not very good. I want to know what lens do i need to get good photographs of these ? I know it will probably be those unaffordable 600mm or something canon lenses!!

Thanks
Deaphen!
Ps: how would you rate the 350D as a camera!


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User currently offlineStaffan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 7251 times:

Reviews:

http://www.fredmiranda.com/reviews/s...p?product=294&sort=7&cat=27&page=3


User currently offlineDeaphen From India, joined Jul 2005, 1427 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 7247 times:

thanks very much staffan, i have read lots of these reviews but what i would like it a first hand experience of some Anetter who has used this.

 Smile thanks



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User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 28
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 7243 times:

Looks like you are using so-called digital zoom on the contrail shots. Digital zoom will not give good results - it is not a true zoom, just a digitally-magnified version of part of the sensor.

For such shots you need a big optical zoom and, above all, clear visibility without haze or smog.



Nikon D700, Nikkor 80-400, Fuji X Pro 1, Fujinon 35 f/1.4, Fujinon 18 f/2
User currently offlineDeaphen From India, joined Jul 2005, 1427 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 7236 times:

Quoting Viv (Reply 3):
Looks like you are using so-called digital zoom on the contrail shots. Digital zoom will not give good results - it is not a true zoom, just a digitally-magnified version of part of the sensor.

yes i am using the digital zoom because if i dont, i cannot make out the plane accurately. The camera is 8 mp (powershot pro 1) and even at full res, the plane is not clearly visible even on clear days.

Any idea what lens i would need to get good clear shots? All these aircraft are at cruise altitude.



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User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 28
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 7236 times:

Quoting Deaphen (Reply 4):
Any idea what lens i would need to get good clear shots?

I would say a top-quality zoom of 400 or 500 mm. I can't reciommend specific Canon lenses - I'm a Nikon guy.



Nikon D700, Nikkor 80-400, Fuji X Pro 1, Fujinon 35 f/1.4, Fujinon 18 f/2
User currently offlineDeaphen From India, joined Jul 2005, 1427 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 7234 times:

Quoting Viv (Reply 5):
I would say a top-quality zoom of 400 or 500 mm. I can't reciommend specific Canon lenses - I'm a Nikon guy

Ah ok hahaha  Smile no problem, photography is photography.. atleast thats how isee it.

well on the 350 D, it has a conversion factor of 1.6 that means the 300mm would be 480mm, would u think that would be decent enough?



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User currently offlineManc From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 344 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 7234 times:

http://www.airliners.net/search/phot...rt_order=views&distinct_entry=true

I have the 350D and 70-300 IS, Deaphen its a good combination I am very pleased with it! I've taken a few contrail shots with it but I think the 300 is just too short to get decent results so like you say something larger is required.

Have fun with the 350D and lens, keep posting your pics  Wink



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User currently offlineDeaphen From India, joined Jul 2005, 1427 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 7228 times:

Quoting Manc (Reply 7):
Have fun with the 350D and lens, keep posting your pics

awesome manc!! great pictures, i have tried submitting pics many times but have got rejected... so i was a little discouraged... but i am hoping my new camera will help me !

And kudos to you for being so supportive! Thats what i like about rare ppl like u on a net!  Wink



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User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 7224 times:

Quoting Deaphen (Reply 6):
it has a conversion factor of 1.6 that means the 300mm would be 480mm

Actually it does not mean that, but that is a whole different discussion that I don't want to get into ... Basically, it means that the field of view in degrees is reduced by the conversion factor, but the amount by which the subject is magnified remains the same.

There is a whole thread about this somewhere.

[Edited 2006-04-06 13:19:53]

[Edited 2006-04-06 13:20:29]


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User currently offlineDeaphen From India, joined Jul 2005, 1427 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 7203 times:

is there any lens powerful enough to tell the reg number under the wing?


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User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 28
Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 7201 times:

Quoting Deaphen (Reply 10):
is there any lens powerful enough to tell the reg number under the wing?

The limiting factor is diffusion and diffraction caused by atmospheric pollution, haze, etc.

In clear conditions, a small astronomical telescope would enable you to read a registration.



Nikon D700, Nikkor 80-400, Fuji X Pro 1, Fujinon 35 f/1.4, Fujinon 18 f/2
User currently offlineJorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3149 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 7184 times:

Hi.
One month ago I purchased the 350D with the EF 70-300 IS USM and really like the results with this lens.

Here are few pics.


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Or some contrail pics on the "other" site

Easyjet A-319
Lufthansa A 340-600
Lufthansa 747-400
Swiss A 340-300

Don't think they are good enough for Anet, but I like them. If you have specific questions about the lens feel free to aks me.

Georg


User currently offlinePsych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 3052 posts, RR: 58
Reply 13, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 7177 times:
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Hi Deaphen.

Previously I was using the Canon 300D with the older version of your lens, the 75-300mm IS. Using this combination I was able to get some decent contrail shots:

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However, these were some time ago, and I think both may have struggled a bit these days with standards. But obviously you cannot get much closer than this.

Your camera has more pixels and I have heard that your lens is an improvement on the one I have. So you should certainly be able to get some decent shots.

All the best.

Paul


User currently offlineDeaphen From India, joined Jul 2005, 1427 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 7172 times:

Quoting Jorge1812 (Reply 12):
Don't think they are good enough for Anet, but I like them. If you have specific questions about the lens feel free to aks me.

thank you guys for helping me.... i have one question, the problem i face with my current powershot pro 1 is that it has a good zoom, but it takes a while to focus. So when i have the aircraft in sight, and press the button, it takes its own sweet time focussing and by that time the aircraft is either out of the frame or just at the edge or cut from the frame, etc.

In bright sunlight i dont suppose i need to use the IS, which i hear takes a few seconds to do its thing.

Another thing i wanted to ask u, how well does the panning mode of IS perform?



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User currently offlineJorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3149 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 7151 times:

Quoting Deaphen (Reply 14):
thank you guys for helping me.... i have one question, the problem i face with my current powershot pro 1 is that it has a good zoom, but it takes a while to focus. So when i have the aircraft in sight, and press the button, it takes its own sweet time focussing and by that time the aircraft is either out of the frame or just at the edge or cut from the frame, etc.

No problems like these with a DSLR anymore. Had the same with my Olympus C-750 but now no problems with the 350D.

Quoting Deaphen (Reply 14):

In bright sunlight i dont suppose i need to use the IS, which i hear takes a few seconds to do its thing.

I use it everytime and had no problems with the adjusting time till now.

Quoting Deaphen (Reply 14):
Another thing i wanted to ask u, how well does the panning mode of IS perform?

Hadn't the chance to try out already.

Georg


User currently offlineDeaphen From India, joined Jul 2005, 1427 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 7103 times:

hey i didnt realise that my current canon power shot pro 1 has an L glass built in!
Pretty cool!



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User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9899 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7083 times:

Wow fellow members. I've read this thread and got answers on all my EOS350D questions and lenses myself! I used to have the 300D but have bought the 350D just last week and I will try it out at the airport tomorrow. After three months without being able to take aircraft photos because of my broken 300D my hands were shaking of not having a camera to take photos. I was really going crazy! I am really looking forward to tomorrow. I have the EF 75-300 mm 1:4-5.6 Canon lense I got when I bought the EOS300 (non-digital version) and now have bought the new EF 90-300 mm 1:4.5-5.6 Canon lense with the 350D I bought. What is the real difference between these lenses? Do they have the same 'range' when comparing the converters? I was also told to range of the lense increases with the digital cameras but it seems this range doesn't change according to member Viv? So what is the main difference between these lenses? The new one I bought last week, is much lighter but what are the differences when comparing the capabilities of these two lenses, the EOS300 75-300 lense compared to the EOS350D 90-300 mm lense?

By the way, all the 350D photos I've seen in this thread so far are very nice! I hope to get similar results tomorrow 

Best regards,

Roger

[Edited 2006-04-08 04:46:13]

User currently offlineJorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3149 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 7058 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 17):
I was also told to range of the lense increases with the digital cameras but it seems this range doesn't change according to member Viv?

From what I know the range should be 480 with the crop factor of 1,6 on the 350D, but my english isn't good enough to understand Viv correctly.

Georg


User currently offlinePsych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 3052 posts, RR: 58
Reply 19, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 7054 times:
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Okay guys - this thread may help clarify things about the crop factor.

In essence, if you are viewing an image through a 300mm zoom on a 350D (which had a smaller sensor that the normal 35mm cameras have), then the image will look about the same - in the viewfinder - as an older 35mm full frame camera with a 480mm zoom. This apparent extra zooming is caused by the 1.6 crop factor, as explained in that thread.

Hope this helps.

Paul


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