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How Can This Be Bad Distance?  
User currently offlinePilotNTrng From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 897 posts, RR: 3
Posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4368 times:

I have had a ton of pics rejected, I know some have been sloppy, but now the new reason I have had pics rejected is due to bad distance. Here is a pic that I thought was awesome and would have been accepted. Tell me what you think.


Thanks

Brad


http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/...o.main?filename=20060414_833mj.jpg


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User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3905 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4367 times:

I can't see it Brad.


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User currently offlinePilotNTrng From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 897 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4367 times:

ooops....sorry about that... not sure why the link didn't work.


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User currently offlinePilotNTrng From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 897 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4355 times:

Big version: Width: 1000 Height: 756 File size: 776kb
bad distance?



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User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4332 times:

Quoting PilotNTrng (Reply 3):
bad distance?

definitely








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User currently offlinePilotNTrng From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 897 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 4305 times:

well there JeffM , thanks for the profound input.... how would you categorize that pic as bad distance?


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User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9603 posts, RR: 69
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 4302 times:
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The subject is only taking up like 50% of the frame, and looks awkward to the background, as does that big pole. A shame as it isn't a bad pic otherwise.

User currently offlineEadster From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2216 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 4299 times:

It is bad distance and maybe centre.

The pic not cropped tightly enough around the main aircraft of the shot, thats why its been rejected. I see what you were trying to do here by having the aircraft off centre and showing some other aircraft of the fleet in the one shot. I like the shot and its looks affective but not anet material. Try a tighter crop around the main aircraft featured, making sure its in the centre of the shot and give it another go if you wish. But watch for jaggies and quality. Use a tad less sharpening and it should be ok.


User currently offlinePilotNTrng From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 897 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 4294 times:

Clickhappy thanks for the response, but I have to disagree. I personally think this is a great ramp shot. It not only shows the pushback sequence, but a terminal shot as well. The pole is a ramp illumination pole. That's uncontrollable. If I had to choose out of the 475 pics i have in the db, I would put this one up there as one of my favs. Would this pic be accepted if I categorized it as an airport overview?


thanks

Brad



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User currently offlinePilotNTrng From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 897 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4272 times:

Eadster, thanks for the tips. I will definitly try that


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User currently offlineBoeingfanyyz From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 991 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 4259 times:

The big pole kinda killed it for me!

Cheers,
Boeingfanyyz  airplane 



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User currently offlineJBLUA320 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3179 posts, RR: 19
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 4211 times:
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Maybe its my screen, but despite the pole and distance, it does seem a bit soft, no?

JBLU


User currently offlineGranite From UK - Scotland, joined May 1999, 5568 posts, RR: 64
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 4200 times:
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Yep

Could do with a tighter crop and maybe wait until the pole vaulter lands on the mat before pressing the shutter.

Regards

Gary


User currently offlineFlyingzacko From Germany, joined May 2005, 583 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4138 times:

I still like the shot a lot. In fact when did you take it, because I almost took the exact same one on Tuesday April 11th around 3pm.
Cheers,
Sebastian



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User currently offlineMrmeangenes From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 566 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4121 times:

At a quick glance, I would ask :"What is this photograph about ? What story is it trying to tell ?"

Is the story about the service cart ? If so, shouldn't we be closer?

Is it about some new feature on the type of jet - or the fact that particular airline now has this type of jet, or what ?

If you were/are writing about the scene potrayed, you would definitely narrow the focus of your story to something -perhaps unique,or plausibly unique to that scene.

Translating that last paragraph into visual terms, how would you tell a story about that scene if the photo had to be caption-free ?



gene
User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 52
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4098 times:

Quoting PilotNTrng (Reply 5):
well there JeffM , thanks for the profound input.... how would you categorize that pic as bad distance?

How? I thought it would be obvious. But since you asked...... The plane is too far away. Better?

Quoting PilotNTrng (Reply 8):
I personally think this is a great ramp shot.

There you go. One for your personal, "Best of Collection".


User currently offlineFlyingzacko From Germany, joined May 2005, 583 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4056 times:

I don't see how everyone's gonna give Brad so much crap about this photo. I think his questioning this rejection is totally alright. We all see ramp shots like this one all the time on a.net. I just looked through the top of last week and there are a couple of photos in there, that portray planes even further in the distance. I'm not saying they should not have gotten accepted and rejected for baddistance instead but I'm saying, they need that distance because the photograph is supposed to show more than just a single plane, just like in Brad's photo here. When I was at MCO this past Tuesday I took the exact same shot he did, and I even thought it might be A.net material as well. I guess all I'm trying to say is that constructive criticism would be more welcome by Brad.

http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/9672/mcoedit4by.jpg

Cheers,
Sebastian



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User currently offlinePilotNTrng From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 897 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4050 times:

Hey guys, thanks for all the input. I do like the criticism, hopefully it will make me take better shots. The only thing I don't really get is the hubbub about the ramp pole. It's just one of the things that unfortunatly, comes with the territory. This shot was taken from the terminal window, so it coming out this well was a shocker for me.

Sebastian I took this shot April 2nd. Thanks for the post.



Brad



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User currently offlineGranite From UK - Scotland, joined May 1999, 5568 posts, RR: 64
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4038 times:
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Sebastian

Your image is soft with an exposure problem too.

Regards

Gary


User currently offlineTimdeGroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 65
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4029 times:
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Brad you appealed the image and I put in a personal comment to you on how to improve. Why the confusion in this thread then?

Tim



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User currently offlineFlyingzacko From Germany, joined May 2005, 583 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3998 times:

Thanks Gary,

however I had no intention of uploading it. I'm just glad it's not baddistance now  Smile

Sebastian



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User currently offlinePilotNTrng From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 897 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3947 times:

Tim,

I must have missed the comment... I apologize.



Brad



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User currently offlinePilotNTrng From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 897 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3943 times:

Going back and re-reading the email. I caught the comment, Tim. I cropped the photo and re-submitted the photo. Thanks to everyone for the input.



regards


Brad



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