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Got My 1st DSLR....Which Lens Should I Get  
User currently offlineBradWray From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 650 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2752 times:

Finally I persuaded my self to spend over 350GBP on a camera and I bought my self a Nikon D50 Kit with the AF-S Nikkor 18-55mm 1:3.5-5.6G ED and after getting comfortable with the camera with that lens I now want to get a larger lens...prefebly around 200mm but I do not know which one to get (bearing in mind I only want to spend up to 80GBP)

Auto-focus is vital and it needs to be god enough for a upload on here  Smile

Please post your ideas and any tips on settings ect for the D50 for Aviation photography would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks, Bradley  Smile


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User currently offlineDC10Tim From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1405 posts, RR: 16
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2731 times:

Quoting BradWray (Thread starter):
Auto-focus is vital and it needs to be god enough for a upload on here

Hi Bradley,

Most lenses come with AF these days.

I'm of the canon persuasion myself, so can't advise on what Nikon lenses are on the market, but you should be able to get something like a 70-300mm lens with a Nikon fit for about £150, maybe less, that will be sufficient.

Regards,

Tim.


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User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2726 times:

If you can afford a little extra, Sigma's 70-200 f/2.8 EX APO HSM AlphaBetSoup is quite possibly one of the best lenses out there, so I've heard, and a little cheaper than the Nikon and Canon equivalents (in the case of Canon's equivalent...Alot cheaper).

User currently offlineKereru From New Zealand, joined Jun 2003, 873 posts, RR: 50
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2723 times:

Too late now but the 18-200mm f3.5-5.6 VR lens is a nice compact unit and covers all the focal lengths you mention.
http://nikonimaging.com/global/produ..._zoom18-200mmf_35-56g_if/index.htm

70-300mm f4-5.6 ED lens is okay to start with and you should be able to pick one up second hand at a reasonable price. I used one for a while cost $800+ here new but got a second hand one for $600 used it for a year or so and sold it again for $600. Had to pay a bit of commission but still worth it.
http://nikonimaging.com/global/produ...m/af_zoom70-300mmf_4-56d/index.htm

70-200mm f2.8 VR is the ultimate but very expensive. One consolation is it will outlast many bodies(due to them changing more frequently) in its lifetime so the cost is spread over many years.
http://nikonimaging.com/global/produ..._vr_zoom70-200mmf_28g_if/index.htm

80-400mm f4.5-5.6 VR has good glass but slow focusing for action shots. Okay for airliners but a bit of a trick to catch an F-111 flypast as I found at Wanaka. Still a good lens quality wise but expensive too.
http://nikonimaging.com/global/produ..._vr_zoom80-400mmf_45-56d/index.htm

Cheers


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User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 10561 posts, RR: 53
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2718 times:

Quoting DC10Tim (Reply 1):
you should be able to get something like a 70-300mm lens with a Nikon fit for about £150

The new 70-300G with ED glass isn't a bad lens since the update, but it is a SLOW focuser. Be prepared to wait for it to catch up with the planes you're trying to shoot. I hardly ever use it on my D70.

I have since bought the 70-200 APO HSM from Sigma that was mentioned above. It is sweet, and almost as fast as my Nikkor 18-70 AF-S kit lens. Pricey at a hair under $800, but I love it.

User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2715 times:

I don't feel you should go with the 70-300. Spend some more money and get the 80-200 2.8. Great AF and sharp results. Then you can either save and buy a 80-400 lens or a TC.

User currently offlineGlennstewart From Australia, joined Jun 2003, 1124 posts, RR: 56
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2683 times:

I agree with the 2.8 option....

Quoting DLKAPA (Reply 2):
If you can afford a little extra, Sigma's 70-200 f/2.8 EX APO HSM



Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 5):
Spend some more money and get the 80-200 2.8. Great AF and sharp results.

I'm a Canon photographer, but I don't regret spending money on my 70-200 f2.8. Colin Work once told me to spend the extra, and I laughed when I saw the 3x price tag. I now leave my 75-300 behind on every trip. It just can't compete.


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User currently offlinePsyops From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2678 times:

My first telezoom was the 80-200mm f/2.8D - this is fantastically sharp glass. If you can affdord a bit more, then get the 70-200mm f/2.8 VR.

My next lens was the 80-400mmVR, which is also great but less sharp than the 80-200.

Depending on your airport and the access will drive what lens to get first. At my local airport the 80-200 does fine for approach shots.

Good luck

User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 11360 posts, RR: 50
Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 month 22 hours ago) and read 2645 times:
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Bradley, the fact of the matter is, where lenses are concerned, you get what you pay for. I would strongly recommend spending as much as you can afford on lenses as these will outlast camera bodies.

The sad fact is that if you really only have £80 to spend, you ain't going to get much. Maybe something second hand.

Guys, recommending a lens that lists at £1,000+ to a guy who says he has £80 to spend is like offering a drowning man a glass of water! I have no problems with the lenses suggested (indeed I own a couple of them), just the logic. scratchchin 


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User currently offlineTimdeGroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 67
Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 month 21 hours ago) and read 2627 times:
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I'd look for a secondhand consumer zoom if you have so little money to spend. I don't see the need anyway for beginners to get 1500 dollar lenses anyway. Before the 'a.net age' I don't think people would have even considered buying L lenses (or nikkors) when buying their first camera.

Cheers
Tim


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User currently offlinePhotoLPPT From Portugal, joined Jul 2004, 491 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 month 21 hours ago) and read 2621 times:

Hi,

I'm a Canon user, so I cannot give you feedback on the Nikkor lenses, but if your budget is tight, you might want to consider the Sigma 70-300 f4-5.6 APO for Nikon, most reviews find it great value for money, and if fits around the 150£ mark if new.

A great site for reviews you can find here: www.fredmiranda.com

Regards,
Alexandre

User currently offlineBradWray From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 650 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (7 years 1 month 18 hours ago) and read 2596 times:

Thanks for you advice people.

I have been looking on ebay and I foud this one... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
Its zoom is fine for me but is the f/3.5-5.6G a let down?

Thanks a lot, Bradley!  Smile


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User currently offlineJetmatt777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2661 posts, RR: 36
Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 month 16 hours ago) and read 2568 times:

Bradley, I would not buy off of eBay unless they are a liscenced Nikon or Canon Dealer. look at his username on Ebay, ConvienenceStore. I would look around for a liscened dealer on ebay. for Nikon.

-Matt  Smile


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User currently offlineLukasMako From Austria, joined Feb 2006, 88 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (7 years 1 month ago) and read 2507 times:

Hi,

I am also looking for a new lens for my D50. I think that buying a new 70-300mm ED is not worth. Rater look for a used Sigma or Nikkor 70-200mm 2.8.
Especially the Nikkor 70-200mm seems to be easy to get used as there is the new VR model which is absolutly out of my price range.

The users say that the VR functions is worth the IMO extreme price difference. I think it isn't. According to users especially the Nikkor 2.8 is very good. And because the Nikkor 2.8 is quite an old lense and because there is the VR modell you can get it used very cheap.

On the D50 I generally use ISO400 and ISO200. On these two ISOs the D50 perform very good. ISO800 is too much for getting uploads here. Only use them, if the motive is very unique and the conditions force you to. Unfortunatly the ISO only can be set in 1 LW steps. When using the automatik modes the ISO is also automatik so you get more precise settings. I generally do not use the modes for the situations they are disgined for. You have to check them all in order to get the picture you want. Simply shoot the motive with different settings. Set the AF to AF-C and choose the correct focus field (the one in the middle is recommended)

With cheaper lenses I generally keep the apeture at 6.3 in order to avoid PF.

[Edited 2006-04-24 10:46:27]


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User currently offlineLinco22 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1379 posts, RR: 18
Reply 14, posted (7 years 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2500 times:

Hi Bradley,

Good to hear you are now in the DSLR age! I was stuck with my kit lens for the first few months while I saved for a zoom lens. I survived with it and my first few shots on here are with the kit lens. Needless to say I bought the EF 100-300mm f4.5-5.6 USM and now have the EF 70-200mm f4 L USM. I'd stick with the kit lens, save like crazy and get a good tele lens. Even if it is just the 70/75-300. You'll get good results with it. It is true you'll get what you pay for but enjoy pushing the lens to its limit and learning all about it.

Good luck whatever you get!

Regards
Colin  Smile

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