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User currently offline53Sqdn From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 12 months 19 hours ago) and read 3701 times:

Hi all! I hope that am putting this in the right forum.

Having looked at an awful lot of photos on this site I feel that a certain criteria needs to be acknowledged. I have perused the site as both a visitor and (now) a member.

Whilst I do appreciate the modern wonders of 'digital' cameras, I also need to show my appreciation for the older technology of film and slides. As we all know, pictures are worth a thousand words. Being of the older genre and an ex-RAF man I can appreciate all aspects of aviation.

My main point is, I relish the older B&W photos as much (often moreso) than the more 'modern' digi photos. If it wasn't for the likes of Mick Bajcar (yes, there are others I know and respect to them) we would not have the visual aspect of how much aviation has changed in what is, a relatively short period in history.

So to Mick and all the other 'older' contributors of this site....

Many, many thanks. Your years of dedication to the aviation industry is really appreciated. To those taking photographs now, I hope to be singing your praises in 50 years time. But, by then I'll be a 108 years old. Still, miracles do happen (don't they?)  cheerful 

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User currently offlineLinco22 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1380 posts, RR: 16
Reply 1, posted (7 years 12 months 18 hours ago) and read 3669 times:

In 50 years i'll still be in my prime lol

Yes I agree, the older photos on this site are a great addition. I admire all the older shots uploaded. Those guys did all the hard work. Keep 'em coming.

Regards
Colin  Smile


User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4650 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (7 years 12 months 17 hours ago) and read 3653 times:

I partitially agree with you guys, the pics are great, but to me personally they hold little value. I think this is mainly due to age (I assume you guys are somewhat 'older'?). I was too young to remember or wasn't even born for a lot of those photo's, so they don't have any connection to memories. But the more recent pics (say the last 5 years) I can link it to memories, and to me they are a lot more special.

just my 2 cents worth,

Jurgen



For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and ther
User currently offlineDendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1648 posts, RR: 62
Reply 3, posted (7 years 12 months 12 hours ago) and read 3594 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
HEAD SCREENER

53Sqdn,
Whilst I am flattered at your comments (your cheque is in the post), neither am I offended by Jurgens as this to me demonstrates how airliners.net manages to be so many different things to different people.
Of course my old pictures have more relevance to the older people as they evoke memories and nostalgia (which is not what it once was).
53 Sqdn 56-65 yrs
Me 25 ish years....well 53
Jurgen 16-20 That says it all, though a lot of youngsters like the older images too.
Jurgen, Did you come to this site first for the aircraft or the photos ?
53Sqdn....how can you possibly explain the power of a Constellation, the roar of a Hastings, the clumsy majesty of a Beverley the grace of a Comet or raw power of a scramble of a Squadron of Vulcans to those too young to have seen them?
By todays standards a lot of my images are poor, but they were not taken under todays standards. I have however recorded a lot of aircraft that may otherwise have gone unrecorded.
I sincerely hope that there are more oldie photographers out there who have yet to discover the joy of sharing these old photographs on this site, though as photographers we were few and far between.
Whilst I never expect to be a high hitter, my two top photos are both oldies, so someone is looking. I am sure that some never look at my photos, others go straight for them. I now know one of each !
53Sqdn, again thanks. Jurgen, I have some good news for you, I only have a few hundred more for you to ignore (LOL)
Mick Bajcar


User currently offlineLinco22 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1380 posts, RR: 16
Reply 4, posted (7 years 12 months 11 hours ago) and read 3584 times:

Quoting JRadier (Reply 2):
I think this is mainly due to age (I assume you guys are somewhat 'older'?).

Ha, i'm 23. Not sure what it is really, just enjoy the older ones too.

No Offence Mick  Wink

Regards
Colin  Smile


User currently offlineJan Mogren From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 2043 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (7 years 12 months 11 hours ago) and read 3583 times:

Quoting Dendrobatid (Reply 3):
raw power of a scramble of a Squadron of Vulcans

Now you got me all envious again  cry  That is something I never saw and will never get to see  hissyfit 

Old shots rock!!!

/JM



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User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4650 posts, RR: 50
Reply 6, posted (7 years 12 months 11 hours ago) and read 3563 times:

Quoting Dendrobatid (Reply 3):
Jurgen, Did you come to this site first for the aircraft or the photos ?

To be honest I don't remember, but it must had something to do with the aviation minded parents and the spotting father  Wink.

Quoting Dendrobatid (Reply 3):
53Sqdn, again thanks. Jurgen, I have some good news for you, I only have a few hundred more for you to ignore (LOL)

I don't ignore them, but I take a look at them and that's it (mainly). There are of course exceptions. To you guys those pics hold memories. I recon that when you look at them you remember how it all was and thus adding emotional value to the picture. They bring back the good old days. For me, I have never (really) experienced the CL-44, Electra etc and thus I cannot add that emotional value. They are great pics, don't get me wrong on that, but they do little to me from an emotional point of view. For me, when I see a pic from an Air Holland 733 (wich is pretty recent) that makes me think how it started out for me. It's not that I only like the new shots (although I have absolutely no regrets from switching from film to digital (never 'enjoyed' slides)) it's just that my aviation history is different from yours.

Jurgen



For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and ther
User currently offlineDendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1648 posts, RR: 62
Reply 7, posted (7 years 12 months 11 hours ago) and read 3552 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
HEAD SCREENER

Quoting JRadier (Reply 6):
it's just that my aviation history is different from yours.

.... and the site is different things to different people.
Great, total agreement !
Mick


User currently offlineAviopic From Netherlands, joined Mar 2004, 2681 posts, RR: 43
Reply 8, posted (7 years 12 months 10 hours ago) and read 3531 times:

Quoting JRadier (Reply 6):
I have never (really) experienced the CL-44, Electra etc and thus I cannot add that emotional value.

So what is keeping you from visiting the Aviodrome and getting educated  Wink
The 27th and 28th of May would be a good start, I'll bet you talk different after that.

Guess I am somewhere in the middle between the "youngsters" and the "old buggers"  old 
At some point I felt something was missing and the little wanderer in my stood up. Now I practically live in between the old aviation stuff and I would no go without it anymore.
Don't think that it has anything to do with age but more with the will to get the picture complete.
Somebody told me ones: "how can you enjoy today if you have no knowledge about yesterday ? ". that says it all i think.

In other words; Mick I enjoy your stuff and can't wait to see the other 1000 or so Big grin

Willem



The truth lives in one’s mind, it doesn’t really exist
User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4650 posts, RR: 50
Reply 9, posted (7 years 12 months 10 hours ago) and read 3523 times:

Quoting Aviopic (Reply 8):
So what is keeping you from visiting the Aviodrome and getting educated Wink
The 27th and 28th of May would be a good start, I'll bet you talk different after that.

The steep price and the fact I know a lot of the a/c pretty well... (used to be at a lot of the aviation markets  Wink. It's not that I don't like them, it's just that I don't have an emotional band with them. And if the weather is good, I'm planning on being there.



For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and ther
User currently offline53Sqdn From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3489 times:

Thanks for the replies.

Jurgen, I understand that for you the photos don't hold the same charisma as they do for people like me. It would be a boring world if we all enjoyed exactly the same things. But, it's nice to know that you look at them. Maybe in another ?? years you may be posting a thread like mine saying how much you miss the 737, 747 and even the A380  Silly

My first flight was in 1966 in a DH Dragon Rapide from Elmdon (Brum). It cost 17/6 (about 88p in todays money) for a 15 minute flight. (My mate paid). I joined the RAF as a MTD the same year.

My first flight in the RAF was in a HP Hastings from RAF Scampton. After training I was posted to RAF Abingdon. The first a/c I saw there was a Blackburn Beverley. It was reversing out from the 'pan'. Awesome.

Sorry, this is turning into a story on my life.

Just to say that I do miss those 'heady' days but, appreciate that aviation and photography have progressed.

Long may both continue to do so and also that there will be the 'enthusiasts' out there to record aviation history.

To ALL photographers my grateful thanks. But, to the likes of Mick, a very special thankyou for recording 'MY' aviation history.

P.S. I haven't received the cheque yet Mick  Silly


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