Glennstewart From Australia, joined Jun 2003, 1124 posts, RR: 55
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2388 times:
Panning shots are both hard to master, and hard to have accepted. As a screener, I love being hard on my own panning shots. I often get home and I am either glad with the results, or I fail miserably.
I think there are a couple of keys to getting a high success rate with panning:
1. Know your minimum shutter speed and shoot shutter priority
2. Take into account aperture at the low shutter speed - thankfully in well lit conditions, aperture will usually be at the sweet spot of the lens (e.g. f11+).
3. Know whether lens image stabilisation will improve photo or not. Some stabilisation modes fight against panning.
4. Know which focusing modes work well with panning. Does continual focusing work well or not?
5. Shoot multiple continual shots as you pan not moving your hand from the shutter button. This can often allow you to concentrate on a smooth pan, rather than knocking the camera body each time you depress the shutter.
I'll share two of my hardest pans ever. The challenge was twofold:
a) Nearly no light, so both shots were 1600 ISO
b) Shutter speed was very, very low - between 1/10 and 1/30 (I would recommend not using less than 1/60)
c) Because of low light, the aperture used was wide open and hence on this old lens of mine, quite soft.
I was quite happy with the results for 2+ years ago. I'd state however that both were borderline for A.net years back, but neither would be accepted today. Thankfully improved lenses and camera body would ensure these shots would be MUCH better quality if I took them today.
The Hawaiian shot was the first arrival into Sydney. It's an airline we would not normally be able to shoot in Sydney because of night arrivals.
The second shot was the most difficult ever. Of the 9 shots I panned with, only 1 worked and it was marginal at best. With the 30D and its excellent low noise ISO and 5fps shooting, I know that this shot would be MUCH easier if taken today.
Both shots were without sunlight
Respected users.... If my replies are useful, then by all means...
Psych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 3043 posts, RR: 59
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2340 times:
I agree that these shots are very difficult to get to a standard high enough to get through screening. I am very grateful to the screeners for enabling these 2 shots below to become part of my portfolio here (both at 1/40th, the lowest I would dare to go without fancy IS), and they illustrate one further bit of advice I would offer:
I think one of the reasons these were okay was that the aircraft was directly perpendicular to my position when the shutter went. When the aircraft is off at an angle to you (as in Pete's example - very good effort - and Glenn's Hawaiian), I think it is even harder to freeze the motion across the whole length of the aircraft - often one part will be okay (depending on your point of focus), but somewhere like the nose or tail will be very slightly blurred.
Morvious From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 705 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2307 times:
Wow, I really like the effect of these photos.
Everytime I see them I look to them for a long time.
That was my first attempt one week ago. The weather was poor and I couldn't get the results with regular shots so I tried something different (Just to practise without spoiling oppertunities with better circumstances).
Shot was taken with 1/60th exposure and aperture F18.
Shot isns't cropped either, it didn't fit on my lens at 70mm, so next time I have to take a little step back for planes this size
Pete, your shot is wonderfull and I think it should be in the DB.
Mfz From Germany, joined Aug 2004, 258 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2297 times:
Nice thread. I think most of us can only dram of Javier's panning-abilities!!!
Anyhow, IMHO a good IS-lens (when set to the correct mode) helps quite a lot when panning. I cannot say anything for Sigma's and Nikon's OS, but with Canon's IS set to mode 2 (on the 100-400L IS that is) you can achive good results even at 1/20th, as Javier's photo as well as the following exapmle show:
QantasA332 From Australia, joined Dec 2003, 1500 posts, RR: 26
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2239 times:
I've had limited success with handheld panning shots. What's involved in getting workable shots pretty much boils down to setting the camera to continuous drive and firing away! If you take a series of 10+ sequential shots of an approach/departure, you're much more likely to have one that's workable.
AGD From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 204 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2204 times:
I always like to extend my spotting sessions,when some light is still available, for photography and especially panning. The results can be really cool, especially with some kind of background (buildings, lights, etc...). Gabriel shot of the Emirates 777-300 in SYD is to me the as good as it can get when you push the limits of your camera gear. Well done!
I haven't done much panning recently, I think my best effort must be that one, at 1/20s:
Quoting QantasA332 (Reply 11): What's involved in getting workable shots pretty much boils down to setting the camera to continuous drive and firing away! If you take a series of 10+ sequential shots of an approach/departure, you're much more likely to have one that's workable
That is a half truth; sometimes by doing that you are making it actually more difficult for yourself, because your viewfinder will be obscured for most of the time making it hard to follow the plane's motion.
Quoting AGD (Reply 13): especially with some kind of background
LHRSIMON From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2002, 1343 posts, RR: 23
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1991 times:
Panning shots are always a good test of oneself and equipment. Yes this is a plug but i just wanted to point out that panning does not just have to be limited to Airlines. GA can look pretty cool as well
N949WP From Hong Kong, joined Feb 2000, 1437 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1844 times:
Count yourselves lucky that affordable DSLR's are becoming more the norm these days, where any blurry shot from an imperfect pan can just be deleted. Try doing that in the days of film......real hard, on one's pocket-book that is. I'd considered myself lucky if I got more than 3 useable images from a roll of 36.