TZ From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2003, 1085 posts, RR: 54 Posted (7 years 1 month 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4817 times:
The major airshow in Berlin, the ILA 2006 ( http://www.ila2006.com ) qualifies for Priority Screening. This show qualifies along with Paris and Farnborough.
If you are submitting images from the show, be sure to tick the Priority box. If you want your images to be linked to the banner on the front page, ensure you use the text "ILA 2006" (without the quotes) in the remark field.
Many thanks, or Vielen Dank!
TZ
[Edited 2006-05-16 13:45:07]
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TZ From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2003, 1085 posts, RR: 54 Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4689 times:
My mistake. Tim is correct - Paris, Farnborough, Dubai and ILA are long-established as our major "priority" events.
These are the major civil shows, and while there are other events which attract greater crowds (eg Albuquerque Balloon Fiesta) or greater participation (eg Fairford), we have decided to keep the list to these few major events. If we open up to other criteria, then we'll wind up with a "priority" event every weekend, and no regular shots will ever get screened!
TZ
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Sulman From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2029 posts, RR: 35 Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4484 times:
Quoting Karlok (Reply 11): Okay, no priority screening for LHR. But still they get priority screening.
Actually, I don't see a problem with this. The event was unquestionably newsworthy; there was ample coverage in the UK so there was plenty of interest. Where are people going to go for the best pictures? A.net.
If nowhere regional airlines from butthole, Ohio can get priority and a banner, then I think the visit of the world's largest commercial aircraft to the country that is one of it's key design and manufacturing contributors is definitely worthy of the same treatment.
I wasn't there, and I wanted to see some nice shots, there were even a few people at work that were interested. I'm pleased I can see them.
GBOAB From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 366 posts, RR: 6 Reply 13, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4474 times:
On the forum yesterday we were told that the A380 at Heathrow was not priority, so like myself and probably many others we have submitted our photos in the normal way and will have to wait about 10 days for the results
I don't understand how this one slipped through the net
I have emailed the screeners but have had no reply yet
Psych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 2976 posts, RR: 60 Reply 14, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4468 times:
Quoting TZ (Reply 10): I know fully well that is does not qualify
Quoting Karlok (Reply 11): Okay, no priority screening for LHR. But still they get priority screening.
Oh dear . I guess this will become ammunition to some.
I agree with James that the site may have unwittingly missed a trick here. Although I can understand the argument for not prioritising the first visit of the A380 to the UK according to the site rules (which then needed to be consistently enforced), the bottom line was that this was the number one news item nationally here yesterday, on TV and radio. The premier aviation photography website then not featuring this looks odd to the outside world not familiar with the in's and out's of A.net's complex rule structure. I also agree with James' point that many people will come first to A.net looking for timely photos of this event, and for them not to be featured is not in the interests of the site, never mind the individual photographers.
I know for a fact that a friend and fellow contributor captured a fantastic shot of the aircraft up here in the North West yesterday and had that been treated as a priority here it would have amassed a shed-load of hits - both for him and the site. It is stunning. Hopefully it will still do so if that particular shot is finally accepted. But now that 'action' is happening elsewhere on the net.
FL350 From Belgium, joined Feb 2003, 517 posts, RR: 2 Reply 15, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4441 times:
Quoting Psych (Reply 14): But now that 'action' is happening elsewhere on the net.
I agree with Paul here, a.net with all it's paradoxal rules is loosing the point and it's not the first time that interesting events and pics are seen 'elsewhere' on the net before here...
Why let slip one pic and not show the others aswell, frustration will sure be on some photog's mind present at the event.
It's simple accepted or not, but here again we see the yes and no and a.net slowly looses its number one place on the net.
HARLEYF150 From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 70 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4404 times:
Just to set the record straight i uploaded my picture last night not knowing that Heathrow was not a priority event which surprised me to say the least,when i looked in the queue there were 24 photos in screening from yesterday which made me assume that it was only a matter of time before there were 20 or so pictures of it from Heathrow.The screener e mailed me last night and said he was unaware of the fact that Heathrow was not a priority event.
Edoca From Belgium, joined Mar 2005, 687 posts, RR: 10 Reply 18, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4403 times:
I know many people will probably disagree with this, and I certainly don't want to start another "queue is too long" argument, but here is my opinion.
Even if some (or even most) people don't mind waiting 14 days to have their pictures screened, the site itself has an interest in fast(er) screening. Exactly for situations like this. I think the site management should see that a system of priority screening with penalties for misuse (in the form of even rejecting a pic and/or adding another 14 days of waiting), and policies deciding which air shows are OK for priority and which ones aren't, is an (IMHO) overreaction to a problem that lies not with the photographers, but with the site's screening process. Surely if wait times were only a few hours or days (the "you'll hear from us within a week" on the upload confirmation page comes to mind), the need for priority screening would become almost non existent.
If there is one argument why short queues are somewhat important, it is to ensure that a.net doesn't miss out on newsworthy events and shows new quality shots as soon as possible. If this cannot be achieved naturally, then rules like we currently know them need to be devised, and such rules are never water-tight, as shown above, which in turn leads to frustration.
just my view...
PS. I don't want to hijack this thread, but I'm sure many people noticed that the queue length stays level at 13-14K already for a few weeks now. Just a few months ago it was at 7K and fairly constant as well for a while. The increase came suddenly and remained pretty much constant, so the usual "good weather/good season" arguments don't "fly". At a competing site, the queue is pretty constant as well, but at 400. They added 700 pics yesterday, a.net 800. Not so much difference... Just some facts to think about perhaps.
StealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5448 posts, RR: 48 Reply 22, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4316 times:
Interesting debate about what constitutes priority or not.
My belief is that the most newsworthy aviation event in the UK this year(at least until Farnborough) should have been given some priority before this whole situation flared up. The reasons have been fairly clearly highlighted in previous posts.
Should ILA2006 get priority, certainly within reasonable limits. Firstly I have spent some time just now looking at the recent posts from Berlin and am impressed both with the variety of aircraft and some of the photography. Having said that do we need dozens of photos of an aircraft, some almost identical, that by any other measure is very common with something like 149 photos in the DB? An aircraft that is going to be around for a very long time.
A photo of any other aircraft with anything like that number of entries would be subject to the most extreme quality standards. Is it too much to ask that the same be applied here?
Finally, Whilst I agree there should be a level of priority given to shows such as Farnborough, Paris, ILA, I have to wonder what the response might be when the same request is made of the most important Aerospace Exposition in the Southern Hemisphere next March?
Regards
Chris
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Rotate From Switzerland, joined Feb 2003, 1480 posts, RR: 18 Reply 24, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4270 times:
OMG! When reading all this comments on here , it seems there is nothing more interesting/important than getting the pics as fast as possibel on A.net! Is it the ILA, the A380 at LHR some totally uninteresting OE-LPA at VIE or whatever - I really cant tell you how happy I am that am not like this anymore. I ve got allready such a big backlog now ... and you know what? I am enjoying it with looking at the pics at home! I am finally there where I wanted to be some 1 1/2 months ago, when I decided to stop uploading .... All this view hunting makes me really think what people are in this hobby .....
cheerio
Robin
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25 Jid: It might be uninteresting to you Robin but it was headline news in the UK on all the major news channels. No airshow in the world will do that. That w
26 TS: Well put, Jid. Here in Germany private news channels provide several hours of live news coverage of the ILA, & I can still remember CNN's coverage of
28 Granite: Steve Yes the screeners will be discussing so there are no problems in the future. I screened your A380 image. The best I have seen from LHR so far (m
29 Airplanepics: As Jid said, it was headline news. Plus, if FRA and SYD had priority screening, why shouldn't LHR?
31 Jorge1812: One question. How long does these ILA pics qualify for priority screening? Read somewhere till the end which would be tonight. Or can I submit them wi
32 TimdeGroot: ILA is priority until midnight (berlin time) today. Everything submitted after that will have to be screened normally. Tim
33 Jorge1812: Thanks for the info....a few hundred pics to go for me within the next 9,5 hours. Georg
34 PUnmuth@VIE: Bit harsh against those attending ILA today.
35 AKE0404AR: Buy a laptop, equipped with PS, w-lan and the deadline is no real dealine for you.....easy as 1-2-3 and who said that we wanted to see all 1000 pictu
37 StealthZ: Damn I hope not! I am still curious as to why these events, covered by a large number of photographers get blanket priority. Certainly I understand t
38 Sulman: Really Chris? It's interest. People will want to see shots from those shows, and it's in the interest of the site that they see them here rather than
39 Dendrobatid: Perhaps a solution would be to include all Air SHOWS (ie trade shows) for potential priority and no Air DISPLAYS. There is potential for any air SHOW
40 StealthZ: James, Maybe I should have worded it differently regarding which shows are given priority. Perhaps it is important and of interest to many that all th
41 Kereru: Not forgetting the Warbirds show down under too? http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?album=6861 Sorry not many airliners and we waited patien
42 Linco22: Can I get priority screening for my rejections? Regards Colin
43 Jorge1812: Not really Have to go through hundreds of pics and decide which to work on and probably upload. But now I'm almost finished only a few to go the norm
44 Granite: Hi all Yes, totally agree. I've still got many stuff to add but not got the time. Regards Gary
45 TZ: A good suggestion, but there are simply too many air shows to consider all of them as priority. We have to find a balance between being topical with
46 StealthZ: Exactly my point.. 400+ priority photos from ILA and how many of them were actually newsworthy? In this day of instant global communications and the
47 ChrisH: So you want priority as long as Australia gets it too? But if you don't, then no priority should be granted to anyone? Personally I don't care tbh...
48 StealthZ: Chris, That wasn't really how I meant it, replace Avalon with Anchorage, Shanghai, Caracas (I know these places currently don't have major aerospace s
49 TransIsland: While we're at it... as soon as this discussion about whether or not ILA deserves priority started, my last ILA shots went into screening... they've b
50 Jorge1812: Have still a few (3) in screening added before the deadline, all others were accepted/rejeceted within a short time. Don't know why it's like that bu
51 TZ: I can definitively say that every shot which met the following criteria was screened before Priority deadline ended: 1. A shot from ILA 2006, 2. The
52 TransIsland: My last 5 ILA shots were uploaded as described, and they did go into screening before the above mentioned deadline. 55 hours just seems like an awful
53 JumboJim747: How about a suggestion to make all airshows priority for the first day only. After the first day then all shots have to wait in the Q. Seems fair to m
55 TransIsland: Hmmm... I had 5 uploaded on 2006-05-21 11:30 (roughly, give or take 10 minutes), that is before priority screening ended. They went into screening fa
56 TZ: Where are you obtaining this "uploaded" date & time from? If you're referring to the field found inside the "Cross Data Search" window, then that ref
57 Jorge1812: Yes, I'm referring to this date form the Cross Data search. Thanks for the explanation I thought it was the date uploaded into the queue. Might be th
58 TransIsland: Today I'm a little annoyed with how the screening process went. My priority uploads from May 21 were finally screened last night, clear evidence that
59 Ptrjong: Was it an airliner at all? If so - maybe you should have checked another category too? I did get a Fokker F-27 photo rejected because I checked CLASS
60 Jorge1812: I'm not sdure, but isn't the classic category for jets only? Georg
61 Ptrjong: I don't think so Georg, 4817 out of 5337 DC-3 shots in the database were accepted as CLASSIC.
62 Jorge1812: You're right. I checked it out and it said an a/c older or as old as the 707/Dc-8. Which plane was it? Georg
64 TransIsland: I don't know how to access the category descriptions without pretending to upload a photo, but I'm reasonably certain it says AIRCRAFT not AIRLINERS
65 Dendrobatid: I am very certain that you are wrong...it is classic AIRLINERS.....and I have uploaded a heck of a lot of them. There are however discrepancies and,
66 TZ: It is "airliners", not "aircraft". An old Waco, Tiger Moth or Hurricane does not qualify as "Classic" whereas a Brabazon, Constellation or Comet (airl
67 Ptrjong: Although the category is called 'Classic Airliner', the help text reads: 'An aircraft older or as old as the 707 and the DC-8...' This is not as clea
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