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Will This Be A NOA_double?  
User currently offlineAero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 18
Posted (8 years 4 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3470 times:

Hi guys.

I was thinking of uploading this photo:

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But I didn't think it could be accepted because of a similar photo of the same aircraft in the DB:


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Photo © David Alfred Eliasson - Reykjavik Spotters



What do you think?

Upload: Yay or Nay?

If you see some other things that can be fixed on the photo, could you tell me what's wrong with them?  half 

Regards,
David  sun  Big grin

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User currently offlineDcrusafon From Spain, joined Apr 2004, 333 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3447 times:

Hi David,

I think it will be NOA_DOUBLE as the other pic is yours and it is very similar and same angle. Are they from the same day?

Here you have more info http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/reasons.php
Also, it looks (for me   ) a little bit dark.

Just my   

Brgrds,

DARIO

[Edited 2006-05-23 18:21:51]

User currently offlineAero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3440 times:

Dario,

I have no problems of this link, thanks anyways.

I have got a photo accepted, which was taken at a similar angle as another photo, which was in the DB. Not long time ago. That was because of the smoke changing the picture.

Thanks at least...  Smile

Waiting for more answers...

-David


User currently offlinePsych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 3048 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3431 times:
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Hi David.

This issue has recently been discussed in this thread and I have been in recent correspondence with Glenn about the issue. I am hoping that Glenn will add to that thread, but others from the crew may see fit to make an addition here.

It does look as though there is some confusion with this rule that needs clarification. But, as someone who has been on the wrong end of the rule in the past and had discussions about it here, I feel quite clear:

If you have a previous photograph already on the database of a particular registration - as you do with this example - and you then submit a further photo that has a similar motive - e.g. angle/stage of flight etc - then you are likely to get a rejection for NOA_Double. It DOES NOT make any difference that the photos were taken on a different days.

Thus - though it is a subjective judgement call - some would argue that this new photo has the plane at the same angle, from the same side, and so it is a candidate for this rejection. Others I guess might argue that the plane is not physically in the same place. To unpick that one would require the input of one of the screening team. My hunch - for what it is worth - is that it will get a double rejection.

I hope this helps.

All the best.

Paul


User currently offlineAero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 18
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3422 times:

Thanks Paul,

What do you think of this?


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Two pictures, similar angles, smoke on one...

I am wondering if this can make the difference.

Of course, the photos weren't taken at the same day.

BCW and BCX.

-David


User currently offlineAsgeirs From Iceland, joined May 2001, 516 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3368 times:

David,

Although the angle is similar in both photos, it differs by a few degrees + they are differently cropped. In my opinion, the smoke as well as the different location/background should make the photos distinct enough so as not to get categorized as doubles.


Regards,
Asgeir



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User currently offlineGlennstewart From Australia, joined Jun 2003, 1124 posts, RR: 54
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3340 times:

Quoting Psych (Reply 3):
I have been in recent correspondence with Glenn about the issue. I am hoping that Glenn will add to that thread, but others from the crew may see fit to make an addition here.

Any updates from crew, I'll post  Smile

But on this one, please upload as the variance in smoke and day should be enough. Of course, it will take a screening to finally find out in this case.

Glenn



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User currently offlineAero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 18
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3309 times:

Thanks for the posts, Asgeir and Glenn!

I will curve the photo up a bit, and then upload it later this month, or in the beginning of June.

Time for archiving now!  Smile

Thanks,
David Big grin


User currently offlineGlennstewart From Australia, joined Jun 2003, 1124 posts, RR: 54
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3228 times:

The doubles issue btw is still being looked at.


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User currently offlineAero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 18
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3204 times:

Thanks, but why can't the thread bee locked?  Wink

-David  Smile


User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3185 times:

Quoting Psych (Reply 3):
It DOES NOT make any difference that the photos were taken on a different days.



Quoting rules, :
In order to receive this rejection, the other (similar) photos in the database must also have been taken by you, at the same day and at the same airport.

??


User currently offlineWakeTurbulence From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1294 posts, RR: 16
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3163 times:

Jeff also from the rules:
"In certain cases you can also get this rejection if there are photos in the database that are nearly identical to the one(s) rejected here, but taken on another date by you. Examples of this are photos of stored or preserved aircraft that have not moved since you took the other photos."
-Matt



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