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Nice B6 Photos... Yes Or No?  
User currently offlineI530j From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 233 posts, RR: 1
Posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3635 times:






I was shooting at MCO today and got these pics and wanted to know from the others here at a.net yes or no?If no tell me and ill do my best to edit.

P.S im gonna resize them before upload.

Cheers,
Justin

Edited for spelling

[Edited 2006-06-05 01:17:32]


"I love you, I love the kids..." then the phone went dead.
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User currently offlineATCme From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 304 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3626 times:

First one seems to be cut off.
Second seems okay to me.
Take my advice with a grain of salt because I don't have any photos in the DB.

ATCme  spin 



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User currently offlineFlightShadow From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 966 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3623 times:

1) No. Bad motive

2) Has a chance, with proper editing and a little bit of leveling

IMO

[Edited 2006-06-05 01:42:52]


"When the tide goes out, you can tell who was skinnydipping."
User currently offlineZSOFN From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1413 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3615 times:

Hi Justin,

I like those shots, but I reckon the first one wouldn't make it on here; it's not generally an acceptable motive (although I personally like those sorts of shots).

The 2nd one looks good to me - one problem I see is that you've cropped the tail off; this might not be a problem if you crop tighter outside the engines and raise the aircraft in the frame slightly. Additionally you'll need to give it about 1.5 - 2 degrees of CCW rotation. From a levels point of view the shot could probably do with having them tightened up a bit, and also I think the photo's a bit dark; boost the brightness just a touch, watching out for hotspots.

Cheers

Tom


User currently offlineI530j From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 233 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3588 times:

Hello all im j/w why would the first one not be acceptable?


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Photo © Justin Idle
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Photo © Anthony Russo



These look the same but this is just my  twocents 


Cheers,
Justin



"I love you, I love the kids..." then the phone went dead.
User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3588 times:

I agree that the first is badmotive, and the second should be able to get to proper quality with good editing, however the blown out details on the nose might give you problems.

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3584 times:

Quoting I530j (Reply 4):

Those include the bottom part of the aircraft and the front gear.

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineI530j From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 233 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3579 times:

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 6):

Thanks



"I love you, I love the kids..." then the phone went dead.
User currently offlineWalter2222 From Belgium, joined Sep 2005, 1293 posts, RR: 28
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3577 times:

Hi Justin,

1) as already stated by others.

2) based on the high voltage pylon (in the background), I would use some 1.8 CCW rotation. It seems that there is also a tiny dust spot (on the right of the vertical stabilizer), maybe two (but my eyes need definitively some sleep now...).
I like the angle, certainly the position of the gear and the way you can see the "forces" acting on the tires because of the turn. A small negative remark is the small portion of the red pole with the aircraft warning lights (although it is in the background, it seems to protrude from the aircraft...). Before pushing the trigger, it is advisable to have a detailed view in your viewfinder on how the picture will look two-dimensionally (on paper/on screen)! When looking through the viewfinder, you see your picture, however, three-dimensionally and then - to the untrained eye - you will not notice that something in the background will interfere with your main subject...

Good luck,

Walter



canon 340d ;-) - EFS10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM - EFS18-55mm - EF28-105mm f3.5/4.5 - EF100-400mm f4.5-5.6l is usm - ...
User currently offlineI530j From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 233 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3573 times:

Thanks walter I'm not that good at photoshop so if i give u the photo via email do you think you could help?


Cheers,
Justin



"I love you, I love the kids..." then the phone went dead.
User currently offlineWalter2222 From Belgium, joined Sep 2005, 1293 posts, RR: 28
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3531 times:

Hi Justin,

I am not a specialist either  Smile ! I am learning day by day, by all the good advise in this forum. If you tell me what kind of tool you are using (Photoshop Elements 2, 3 or 4 or Photoshop CS), I could give you some hints of what I would do (I have Photoshop Elements 2 available as well as Photoshop CS (version 8)), but still it is no guarantee to get a shot accepted...

You can e-mail me, of course, and I can see what I can do and I can explain you the steps so that you can do it afterwards and see the effects yourself (because it is your picture)!

Best regards,

Walter



canon 340d ;-) - EFS10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM - EFS18-55mm - EF28-105mm f3.5/4.5 - EF100-400mm f4.5-5.6l is usm - ...
User currently offlineAero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 21
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks ago) and read 3522 times:

Here's my job:

Big version: Width: 1023 Height: 682 File size: 521kb
Great Blue Sky


Cw rotation, crop, resize, canvas size, sharpen, curves, brightness.

IMO, you should use your Digital Rebel in Av mode, not in Auto, as there you can set most of the things yourself. Aparture 7.1 is all right, but I'd go for a little more on a sunny day, then set the Exposure compensation (by pushing the Av button and pushing the four-way controller to the left) two steps lower. I think, then you'll be in good "hands".  Silly

I'm interested why there's such grain on ISO 100, can it probably be because the photo was shot at 230mm (x 1.6) and there was heat-haze?

At least Justin thread starter, I don't think this picture will make it:

Blurry, over-exposed on nose...

Just my  twocents 

-David


User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 51
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3507 times:

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 11):
Aparture 7.1 is all right, but I'd go for a little more on a sunny day, then set the Exposure compensation (by pushing the Av button and pushing the four-way controller to the left) two steps lower. I think, then you'll be in good "hands".

Bad advice. You're telling him to compensate by "two steps" (what are "steps"?) and you have no idea what his shutter speed is or what the scene calls for. He would be better off shooting a test frame or two and adjusting via his histogram.


User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 29
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3503 times:

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 11):
Aparture 7.1 is all right, but I'd go for a little more on a sunny day, then set the Exposure compensation (by pushing the Av button and pushing the four-way controller to the left) two steps lower.

Oh dear. Why go to all that trouble? And why go for an even bigger aperture than f/7.1 on a sunny day????

[Edited 2006-06-05 15:08:12]


Nikon D700, Nikkor 80-400, Fuji X Pro 1, Fujinon 35 f/1.4, Fujinon 18 f/2
User currently offlineAero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 21
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3491 times:

Well Jeff I saw the exif.

Vivion, I use most often f/11-13 on a sunny day. The photo will be sharper with the higher f/.

I do not understand "trouble" here, as bigger f/ = sharper pic. For me, f/7.1 is just nothing... It's really too low number for me.  Silly

-David


User currently offlineI530j From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 233 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3469 times:

Thanks all a lot



Cheers,
Justin



"I love you, I love the kids..." then the phone went dead.
User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 29
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3442 times:

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 14):
Vivion, I use most often f/11-13 on a sunny day

That is a SMALLER aperture than f/7.1. We are talking at cross purposes. You are talking high or low aperture NUMBERS. I am talking the size of the aperture, i.e. how big or small the HOLE is.



Nikon D700, Nikkor 80-400, Fuji X Pro 1, Fujinon 35 f/1.4, Fujinon 18 f/2
User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3409 times:

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 14):
Well Jeff I saw the exif.

Wonderful, but that advice isn't accurate for every instance.

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 14):
The photo will be sharper with the higher f/.

Wrong. It only means more will be in focus. Where did you learn about Photography?

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 14):
I do not understand "trouble" here, as bigger f/ = sharper pic. For me, f/7.1 is just nothing... It's really too low number for me.

You can get a sharp image with an aperture of f2.8 The trouble is you are giving lousy advice.


User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 29
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3388 times:

Quoting JayDavis (Reply 18):
don't argue with JeffM, he is perfect and knows everything about everything; especially when it comes to photography and cameras.

Actually, I was agreeing with him!

What I do not agree with is your gratuitous and unfounded sarcasm, but I'm sure that Jeff will ignore it.



Nikon D700, Nikkor 80-400, Fuji X Pro 1, Fujinon 35 f/1.4, Fujinon 18 f/2
User currently offlineAero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 21
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3386 times:

Quoting Viv (Reply 16):
That is a SMALLER aperture than f/7.1. We are talking at cross purposes. You are talking high or low aperture NUMBERS. I am talking the size of the aperture, i.e. how big or small the HOLE is.

Sorry, I was talking about the size of the number. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

-David.

[Edited 2006-06-06 09:46:42]

User currently offlineJayDavis From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2000 posts, RR: 16
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3345 times:

Aero145,

Great shot!


User currently offlineAero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 21
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 3318 times:

Quoting JayDavis (Reply 20):
Aero145,

Great shot!

 Confused

What shot? Are you maybe trying to make a fool of me because of my misunderstanding?

At least, there was no shot.

-David


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