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Spotting In ATH, Greece  
User currently offlinePipoA380 From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 1594 posts, RR: 51
Posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3291 times:
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Hi everybody,

I will be in Greece during this summer and will surley want to go out spotting. Do you have any idea how legal it is over there? I will be in Athens. I've seen so few pics here on a.net of ATH and I was wondering...

Best regards and have a great day

Philippe


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User currently offlineSkidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 55
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3285 times:

As far as I can gather the Greeks are a touch more paranoid than the rest of the world re spotting. On my only trip to the old Athens airport, I had the security of an RAF hercules to spot from. However, the furore created a couple of years ago by the British spotters arrested in Greece should give you some idea of the attitude of the Greek authorities.

If you go, take great care.

Andy  old 



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User currently offlineBrianW999 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 312 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3277 times:

DO NOT, under any circumstances be seen pointing a camera through or over link fences at an airport perimeter, from car parks etc. and certainly not where there may be any military aircraft and/or military establishments nearby. Photography from the public area of a terminal building seems to be reasonably acceptable but it really would be a good idea to ask permission if there are any military, airport security or police personnel around you.

You will normally find "No Photography" signs hanging on fences etc. Ignore these at your peril.

I recently went to Crete where photography was definitely banned outside the perimeters. It wasn't much good inside the terminal either as the glass was dirty and heavily tinted. I found a nearby beach where I could sit in a bar and get good shots of aircraft on finals. I've never been to Athens so I can't comment on nearby safe areas.


User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3904 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3265 times:

Here's some limited information:
http://users.otenet.gr/%7Eaviation/ATHENS/athens.htm

The best place in Greece might be Corfu where photography from Kanoni Hill is very good, and authorities don't seem to bother. You may feel traffic is not so interesting though.

Peter



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User currently offlinePipoA380 From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 1594 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3232 times:
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Thanks for your info guys. It seems like I won't really be able to spot there... It you have any other information, please post them! Thanks a lot!


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User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3230 times:

I was in Athens a couple of weeks ago. Spotting from around the airport fence is virtually impossible - it's quite a distance and you might get stopped if you are in the wrong place at the wrong time. There is a viewing area inside the terminal on the left but it's glass. If you are going to be there for a while then I would think about a day trip to one of the islands. See my trip report.

You could book with Aegean Airlines in advance online and fly out to one of the islands for the day. You would enjoy that more.

Day Trip To Athens (by 9VSPO May 25 2006 in Trip Reports)


User currently offlineWalter2222 From Belgium, joined Sep 2005, 1292 posts, RR: 28
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3219 times:

Hi Philippe,

Athens is a nice place (even without the possibility to go aircraft-spotting  Smile...)!

I have been there 3 times during summer but I have never gone out for spotting when I was there (too hot, and "other" wishes from the family  bored  ...), although it is not so difficult - with a tele - to find a good spot in the neighborhood of the airport.

I have shot this one (poor quality) through the windows, at the airport:

http://walter2219.fotopic.net/p23697079.html

Nobody bothered me while doing that and when I was walking around with my camera (and standard lens).


This one was my first - digital - cockpit-shot (friendly crew) on arrival in Athens:

http://walter2219.fotopic.net/p23347804.html



PS: Because of the heat, I would only go out for spotting in the very early morning or very late afternoon (be sure to check for heat-haze).

Best regards and enjoy your time over there,

Walter



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User currently offlineJiggles From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 56 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3174 times:

Interesting post.

Athens is the location for the Champions League Final next May. Except in the unlikely event that a Greek team gets to the final (sorry Olympiacos fans!) it would be well worth a visit for a guaranteed aviation influx (No nearby alternative airports that I'm aware of either).

I am fairly sure I have seen photos taken from a recognised spot at ATH somewhere..... maybe in one of the magazines.

Any Greek enthusiasts care to help?

Regards,

Gary


User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3170 times:

Quoting Jiggles (Reply 7):
I am fairly sure I have seen photos taken from a recognised spot at ATH somewhere

There is an official ATH spotting group but most of the photo's from there are taken by people who have airside access.


User currently offlineRotate From Switzerland, joined Feb 2003, 1491 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3164 times:

Isnt there a cool bar/restaurant just in sight of the approach patch? I do remember reading an articel somewhere, in which have been really nice pictures, it looked really close to the airport. A very cozy place. They said they had no problems spotting AND taking photos from that elevated bar ...

Robin



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User currently offlineSkidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 55
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3142 times:

Quoting Rotate (Reply 9):
Isnt there a cool bar/restaurant just in sight of the approach patch? I do remember reading an articel somewhere, in which have been really nice pictures, it looked really close to the airport. A very cozy place. They said they had no problems spotting AND taking photos from that elevated bar ...

Robin

That was at the old airport wasn't it? The Emantina or something similar. In fact, several of the hotels in Glifada (not sure if thats the right spelling) had excellent views of planes landing and taking off. The one we stayed in for half a night certainly had a good view.

Dunno about the new one though.

Andy  old 



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User currently offlineAKE0404AR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2535 posts, RR: 46
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3109 times:

Quoting Rotate (Reply 9):
Isnt there a cool bar/restaurant just in sight of the approach patch?

No, but you can get shots from a location near the Sofitel, this is good for all day shooting but I don;t know how "safe" this location is as you are directly at the airport thus quite exposed to local authorities.

Most of my shots at ATH were taken on the ramp, but some others were taken around the perimiter

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The MP MD11 shot was taken from the spot mentioned above. There is a road (overpass) kind of between RWY 3R and L, traffic in the morning is no real factor. A few mornings I just stopped there and for instance took that AZ shot.

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Oh, there was small hill in the vicinity of RWY 3L, but I don;t know if it's still there, you were able to get some decent shots there too.

One thing you have to battle in ATH is the massive heat haze in the summer months. I was there in June 2003 and a lot of pictures did come out aweful (due to long telephoto lens 600mm and above)

Good luck
Vasco G.


User currently offlineLXLucien From Switzerland, joined Mar 2005, 259 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3056 times:

Bonjour Philippe

I was there in Fall 2004 for two days.
At the first day I was standing between the two runways where they vacate the 04L runway where they usually land, it's a parking lot near Taxiway K.
No action shots at all  Sad
Next day I was standing along 04 near The IKEA, with better light it would be a so wonderful spotting place


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We were sitting near a cafe there and were acting like we were eating breakfast, as the police cars drove around the perimeter road.
Maybe one hour we could be there, then a police car was driving outside the fence, and we already thought: "damn, no more spotting here  Smile"
He came, we showed our passports, he wrote the numbers down and said that it's forbidden to take pictures here... so we walked to the terminal back, to the McDonald's and took some pictures there... Then we came across a nice spot were you can see the landings on 04L and how they vacate... It's on the other side of the Hotel inside the airport, Sheraton i think. You are non a platform where you can see the parking lot again, from there we could take some of these shots:

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We were looking around the whole time to avoid another contact with police. As a plane lands, we took our cameras, took 1 or 2 pics and stowed them away...  Smile LOL was quite funny

So overall, if you just wanted to go to ATH for spotting ,forget it... But you can go to the city! Really great with acropolis and the streets with shops everywhere!

If you are going to ATH for spotting, just write me so I can make a map and a description (in French or German as you like  Smile)
If you got a Swiss Passport, don't be scared, they all think your from Sweden, even when there is written on the front: "Switzerland" Big grin LOL

Bye
Lucien



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User currently offlineJiggles From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 56 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3044 times:

I think the restaurant/cafe is called the "Skyview".

Having read the reports I reckon ATH police wouldn't take kindly to 200 photographers turning up for the Champions League Final next year!!!

Gary


User currently offlineAirMalta From Malta, joined Mar 2006, 394 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3041 times:

I was there last september at the Dept Lounge there is the McDonalds upstairs and photography will be good from let say 3pm till very later afternoon.....Forget to get the Dash8 of Olympic since they vacate the runway very early and they rotate very early too if they take full runway...
Malcolm


User currently offlineThf1963 From Germany, joined May 2006, 6 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3029 times:

Philippe,
if I would be you (and unless you are fluent in Greek and could talk you way out), I would not try to spot at ATH airport. The police is really unpredictable and you may get a warning only but also having to pay a fine or even getting arrested.

Not a good place to go...

Peter



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User currently offlinePipoA380 From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 1594 posts, RR: 51
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2980 times:
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Quoting Thf1963 (Reply 15):
Not a good place to go...

Well I'll be there for business, so it's not really a choice  Wink thought I could maybe have a spotting weekend or two.

Okay I guess you're right, I'd better not try to do it, or I can still fly to Corfu for the weekend if there's anyone who'll come with me! Best regards, and thanks!



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