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Motive And Colour  
User currently offlineDC10Tim From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1406 posts, RR: 14
Posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2977 times:

Hi everyone,

Just got back from being away this week and taking a first look at some of my shots. First of all, I'd like peoples opinions on this shot:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/airberlinramp1.jpg

I like it. The ramp guys I think give it atmosphere, but is the motive acceptable?

Secondly this one:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/hamlgwedit1.jpg

Those of you from England will probably recognise it as Margate and the tip of Kent. I've been playing around for ages with the colour and I'm still not convinced it is 100% right on reflection. Should there be more yellow and red there?

As ever, any help is welcomed.

Regards,

Tim.


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User currently offlineTomTurner From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 247 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2969 times:

Tim -

I like the Air Berlin shot with the ramp guys at work.

I'm going to guess there is a chance the screeners might like it as well.

If not, certainly a nice one for the personal collection.
Tom


User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2956 times:

I like the motive on the first one, but I wouldn't be surprised if it got a motive rejection. Probably worth a try though.

As for the second, I lowered the blue level in curves in PS, and I think it looks a lot better.



Harry

[Edited 2006-06-10 04:34:37]


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User currently offlineDC10Tim From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1406 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2901 times:

Well thanks for your input guys.

I think the window shot looks better with a little less blue and I'm not sure now the Air Berlin 737 is centred as well as it could be, although he is parked slightly on the skew.

Regards,

Tim.



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User currently offlineDC10Tim From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1406 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2844 times:

How about the quality of this one?

http://www.airliners.net/uf/536886940/1150030939iHi1ec.jpg


Do the burnt-out areas towards the front of the engine render it an immediate rejection?

Regards,

Tim.



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User currently offlineMorvious From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 707 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks ago) and read 2811 times:

Quoting DC10Tim (Reply 4):
How about the quality of this one?

Quality seems fine, but I guess motive!! There is not much to see there!



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User currently offlineThf1963 From Germany, joined May 2006, 6 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2800 times:

The question is: why playing with the pic at all??

I think it is OK to work with saturation or contrast - but if there is no "red" in the pictures why would you add it? Either the shot is good and the colour is there or it is not...

I like the Margate shot ...

And: not everything that is been rejected here is of bad quality or even bad motive. Poeple tend to have a very common way of viewing and cant think of anything else than their boring normal way of airline pictures! How many shots do you find on the web (not only here) with always the same perspective: runway shot 90 degree angle. Or the same boring shot of a landing plane taken 45 degrees from below...

You have to be happy with your shots, not the screeners!
Keep on sharing!

Peter



The friendly guy from rails-and-wings.de in Berlin, Germany
User currently offlineDC10Tim From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1406 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2796 times:

Quoting Morvious (Reply 5):
Quality seems fine, but I guess motive!! There is not much to see there!

Perhaps you're right. That was one of only a couple I took with the whole engine in, which is the reason I edited it. I have others where the ground is clearly visible and not as much engine, but they all have the glare. I'm not having much luck with my recent window shots.

Quoting Thf1963 (Reply 6):

I think it is OK to work with saturation or contrast - but if there is no "red" in the pictures why would you add it? Either the shot is good and the colour is there or it is not...

The problem is Peter, I had the camera's white balance on auto and when I downloaded all of the photos from that flight, they all had a very unnatural blue cast to them. The winglet of the A319 was bright yellow in the evening sunlight and the land much more green than in my shots, so it's a matter of getting them back to what I think is closest to reality. It is a little difficult in the electric light though.

Quoting Thf1963 (Reply 6):
I like the Margate shot ...

And: not everything that is been rejected here is of bad quality or even bad motive. Poeple tend to have a very common way of viewing and cant think of anything else than their boring normal way of airline pictures!

Thanks - and I agree. A.net is perhaps restrictive when it comes to motive in particular.

Regards,

Tim.



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User currently offlineThf1963 From Germany, joined May 2006, 6 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2789 times:

Tim,

being a new member to A.net, I can clearly see that there has to be a limit to posting - otherwise the site would be flooded with really bad pictures ...

Its always tough to find the balance.

Greetings,
Peter



The friendly guy from rails-and-wings.de in Berlin, Germany
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