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User currently offlineEGTESkyGod From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1712 posts, RR: 12
Posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3793 times:
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Hi. I had my photo of an A310 landing at Exeter ripped apart in a separate thread, so I have tried editing a different picture of the same aircraft on the same day in an attempt to hone my skills.

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...dy/AnetA310EGTE060606backtrack.jpg

Basically, I have sharpened the image a bit, tried balancing a few colours and have cropped the image to make sure the centering is OK. I'm not sure about the quality of the image, as all other photos I have put to you have had "bad quality" or something wrong with the quality.

I have uploaded the above image, purely because I don't know how to link an image from the computer, but I'd like your comments before I submit the final effort.

Thanks again,

Charlie.


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User currently offlineJan Mogren From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 2043 posts, RR: 50
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3792 times:

Unfortunately no hope for that shot.
Heat haze, colour and overexposure.

/JM



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User currently offlineChrisH From Sweden, joined Jul 2004, 1136 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3786 times:

sorry but that looks absolutely horrible... I suggest you find a similar shot in the DB and compare it to yours, and you should be able to see yourself what is wrong.

Not putting you down, we all have to start somewhere.



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User currently offlineEGTESkyGod From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1712 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3782 times:
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Quoting ChrisH (Reply 2):
sorry but that looks absolutely horrible... I suggest you find a similar shot in the DB and compare it to yours, and you should be able to see yourself what is wrong.

Not putting you down, we all have to start somewhere.

No no, that's fine, I'm a beginner, your comments are welcome, my eyes aren't trained to see what you can see!!! I will keep trying, and I will pull that one out then!



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User currently offlineEGTESkyGod From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1712 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3729 times:
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How about this one? It isn't in the database yet. I have again slightly sharpened, balanced the colours, and cropped the image accordingly. Your thoughts please?

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/AnetGOWAC.jpg

The quality of this pic is appalling, but is it salvageable?



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User currently offlineLinco22 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1380 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3728 times:

Hi Charlie, I think that one is beyond repair though it does look like you have blown up a thumbnail or something of this photo. So it may be ok.

Re-check the photo

Regards
Colin  Smile


User currently offlineEGTESkyGod From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1712 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3726 times:
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Quoting Linco22 (Reply 5):
I think that one is beyond repair though it does look like you have blown up a thumbnail or something of this photo. So it may be ok.

Re-check the photo

Regards
Colin

Binned it. Getting frustrated now!! Need to have a couple of decent photography days when I can really experiment with the camera!



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User currently offlineLinco22 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1380 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3719 times:

Thats it Charlie, just get out and about, learn your camera inside out, get to know its limits and most of all enjoy it. I know it can be frustrating but anet isnt the be all and end all, dont lose sight of 'photography'

Good luck!

Regards
Colin  Smile


User currently offlineEGTESkyGod From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1712 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3707 times:
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Quoting Linco22 (Reply 7):
Thats it Charlie, just get out and about, learn your camera inside out, get to know its limits and most of all enjoy it. I know it can be frustrating but anet isnt the be all and end all, dont lose sight of 'photography'

Good luck!

Thanks mate. Just went out for some food, and took a few while I was out there. Messed with a few settings and this is what I came up with. Still not sure of quality despite all.

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/AnetAirMalta.jpg

Your thoughts?



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User currently offlineLinco22 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1380 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3703 times:

Ah typical british weather I see.... I'd say the quality is too low in this one too. Can I ask what camera you are using and what the settings where in terms of shutter speed etc for the Air Malta shot?

Regards
Colin  Smile


User currently offlineCosmic From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3702 times:

Hi,

Firstly, there is no need to upload at 1600x. Re-size to 1024x or around that, this will improve your chances. Uploading at 1600x makes quality issues which the photo may have more clear to see as far as I know. Also the tail has been cropped in an awkward fashion through the logo, which will be a badmotive. It's been taken in the rain which has introduced noise and grain.

This all doesn't sound to good at all, but I think it's best for me to tell you than not tell you. Re-sizing to 1024 (approx) wouldhelp alot, I noticed this in your other thread also.

Keep going!  Smile

Cosmic


User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 28
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3699 times:

Upload at 1024 - we told you that in a previous thread.

What progeramme are you using to resize? There are bad jaggies on the cockpit window frames and tail stripes.



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User currently offlineEGTESkyGod From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1712 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3682 times:
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Quoting Linco22 (Reply 9):
Ah typical british weather I see.... I'd say the quality is too low in this one too. Can I ask what camera you are using and what the settings where in terms of shutter speed etc for the Air Malta shot?

The camera is a Konica Minolta Dimage Z6, 6 megapixels. I can't change the camera, I only just received it as a birthday present, I'm just very new to photography and editing so it's those elements I need to work on.

Quoting Cosmic (Reply 10):
Firstly, there is no need to upload at 1600x. Re-size to 1024x or around that, this will improve your chances. Uploading at 1600x makes quality issues which the photo may have more clear to see as far as I know. Also the tail has been cropped in an awkward fashion through the logo, which will be a badmotive. It's been taken in the rain which has introduced noise and grain.

Noise/grain, how do I get rid of them? Unfortunately, resizing images to 1024 (on this PC, anyway) reduces quality very substantially, I don't know why it is, maybe it's the programme...

Quoting Viv (Reply 11):
Upload at 1024 - we told you that in a previous thread.

What progeramme are you using to resize? There are bad jaggies on the cockpit window frames and tail stripes.

.... Microsoft Photo Editor........ Yes, I know you said in a previous thread that I should avoid this programme, however, this is works computer and thats all that it has on it. I don't have broadband at home just yet, so I can't do much there, where I have Photoshop 5 or something. I will have a play tonight, thats enough for today from me I feel!!!!



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User currently offlineLinco22 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1380 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3677 times:

Quoting EGTESkyGod (Reply 12):
The camera is a Konica Minolta Dimage Z6, 6 megapixels. I can't change the camera, I only just received it as a birthday present, I'm just very new to photography and editing so it's those elements I need to work on.

Charlie, thats a decent point and shoot cam. The Z6 should get you decent results. If you have any originals please send them to me and i'll have a look at them. I would try and stick with good weather too as images in these types of cameras are quite heavily processed in-camera and the bad weather only magnifies that.

Regards
Colin  Smile


User currently offlineWillo From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 1352 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3671 times:

Quoting EGTESkyGod (Reply 12):
I don't have broadband at home just yet, so I can't do much there, where I have Photoshop 5 or something.

You could always try edit at home in Photoshop, burn the shot to disc and upload from work where they have the fast connection?


User currently offlineEGTESkyGod From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1712 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3660 times:
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Quoting Willo (Reply 14):
You could always try edit at home in Photoshop, burn the shot to disc and upload from work where they have the fast connection?

Good point well made, however (and this isn't an excuse) I am a stupidly keen cricketer, and 5 out of my 7 days a week have cricket in them somewhere.

Quoting Linco22 (Reply 13):
Charlie, thats a decent point and shoot cam. The Z6 should get you decent results. If you have any originals please send them to me and i'll have a look at them. I would try and stick with good weather too as images in these types of cameras are quite heavily processed in-camera and the bad weather only magnifies that.

I will send the originals to you tomorrow when I get hold of them again. Thank you so much for your help, it doesn't go un-noticed!!



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User currently offlineEGTESkyGod From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1712 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3620 times:
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I have come back to the office this morning with a message saying I have had a photo accepted!!! AT LAST!!!!!


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User currently offlineLinco22 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1380 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3618 times:

Well done Charlie!

Regards
Colin  Smile


User currently offlineJumboJim747 From Australia, joined Oct 2004, 2464 posts, RR: 44
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 3598 times:

Plug away lets see it you deserve a plug after all this looks like you are a very keen photog which is very good to see.
Cheers



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User currently offlineEGTESkyGod From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1712 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3582 times:
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Quoting JumboJim747 (Reply 18):
Plug away lets see it you deserve a plug after all this looks like you are a very keen photog which is very good to see.
Cheers

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Chuffed.... to bits!!!



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User currently offlineJumboJim747 From Australia, joined Oct 2004, 2464 posts, RR: 44
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3540 times:

A nice shot well done Mate.
Cheers



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User currently offlineEGTESkyGod From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1712 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3500 times:
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Quoting JumboJim747 (Reply 20):
A nice shot well done Mate.

Thank You! I cant take all the credit. Thanks to Ian for editing it!!



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