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User currently offlineJavibi From Spain, joined Oct 2004, 1371 posts, RR: 41
Posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4852 times:

Quality rejection:

Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 695 File size: 184kb
Badquality


It was shot at 1/25 seconds, due to the low light present.

Any opinions about what should be changed are welcome.

Thanks.

j


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User currently offlineKukkudrill From Malta, joined Dec 2004, 1123 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4844 times:

That is a gorgeous photo.

In a.net terms, perhaps the wings and nose look a bit soft though in the case of the nose it's probably due to reflections on the fuselage curvature.



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User currently offlineTimdeGroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 64
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4836 times:
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Acceptable although I would crop a little to the bottom and left if quality allows.

Tim



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User currently offlinePUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4163 posts, RR: 54
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4824 times:

Hola Javier!
A really nice capture. But you might want to clean it also before reuploading it. Might increase your chances to have shot a picture instead of a rejection  Wink

http://www.airliners.net/uf/536874390/1151680268HAHCoS.jpg



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User currently onlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11572 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4818 times:

Quoting Kukkudrill (Reply 1):
That is a gorgeous photo.

Absolutely. Well done, Javier! (Again!)

Quoting Kukkudrill (Reply 1):
In a.net terms, perhaps the wings and nose look a bit soft

Why does this matter? A beautiful photograph is a beautiful photograph. A "perfect" photograph isn't always beautiful.

This is the kind of shot that will sell prints.

[Edited 2006-06-30 17:19:56]


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User currently offlineAero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4818 times:

Nice capture Javier, a really nice addition to the DB - that is, if it'll pass...

But - when will you start uploading in 1000x667 pixels??  Wow!  Wink

It has helped me often with quality rejections...

-David


User currently offlineJavibi From Spain, joined Oct 2004, 1371 posts, RR: 41
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4805 times:

Quoting Kukkudrill (Reply 1):
perhaps the wings and nose look a bit soft



Quoting TimdeGroot (Reply 2):
I would crop a little to the bottom and left



Quoting PUnmuth@VIE (Reply 3):
you might want to clean it

Thanks to all who posted  Smile

Better?
Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 683 File size: 429kb
Badquality take two

Any problems?

j



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User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 4006 posts, RR: 18
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4795 times:

Yes I like the crop better.

Peter  Smile



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User currently offlineSinkrate From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 336 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4788 times:

Absolutly beautiful picture! I love it. I like this crop better and you've tidied it up, so i think it should be accepted and will be a great addition to the database.

Michael


User currently offlineKukkudrill From Malta, joined Dec 2004, 1123 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 4730 times:

Quoting D L X (Reply 4):
Why does this matter? A beautiful photograph is a beautiful photograph. A "perfect" photograph isn't always beautiful.

I agree. The recent Air International photo competition was an eye-opener: in a.net terms most of the winning photos were bad quality, bad distance, bad motive, bad grainy ...

But as long as you're uploading to a.net, then the a.net criteria have to matter. And to be fair, a.net's criteria are what stop a.net from becoming like a military aviation desktop photo website that I came across a while ago - full of mediocre photos possessing neither technical quality nor artistic merit. Unless perhaps one considers an F-18 flying in formation with a squadron of dust spots to be artistic.



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User currently offlineNicolasRubio From Argentina, joined Sep 2005, 585 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4716 times:

Javier, as usual... Amazing picture... I think it can definitely be saved... Why don't you post the original picture?

PS: I have to ask you some questions on the next time you will be here in Argentina...



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User currently offlinePsych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 3064 posts, RR: 58
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4674 times:
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Hello Javier.

I always enjoy looking at your rejections - so often they are lovely photographs, as is this one. I also admire the way so many of your shots 'test' the boundaries of the A.net criteria, and I would like to think the screeners enjoy having to consider your shots very carefully.

For me, with a screener's hat on, the first thing that struck me was the 'dirt', so I am pleased to see that those areas have gone in the second posted version. I think the crop now gives you more chance of success too. I am guessing it is not possible, but I would have liked to have see the far right corner of the runway, just to make it complete  wink . But it is a lovely photo nonetheless, and I think the heat-hazed background makes it very atmospheric.

A couple of very minor points: can you give the port wing a little extra sharpening? There is very slight softness there, and with the nav light. Also are there very small jaggies on that left, highlighted side of the fuselage? Look what the screeners have done to me - I am becoming as picky as them  biggrin .

You must give it another go and I will have my fingers crossed for you.

Take good care.

Paul


User currently offlineRotate From Switzerland, joined Feb 2003, 1491 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4651 times:

Quoting Psych (Reply 11):
Also are there very small jaggies on that left, highlighted side of the fuselage? Look what the screeners have done to me - I am becoming as picky as them .

Thats also the last small prob I see here ... , but give it another try ... - good Luck !  airplane 

Great capture @ 1/20s !

Robin



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User currently offlineJavibi From Spain, joined Oct 2004, 1371 posts, RR: 41
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4645 times:

Quoting Psych (Reply 11):
I would like to think the screeners enjoy having to consider your shots very carefully.

I doubt it very much.

Quoting Psych (Reply 11):
I am becoming as picky as them

You really are picky! Big grin

New version taking into account all your suggestions is already in the queue; the merit will be yours if it is accepted, thank you very much to all!!!

Cheers

j



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User currently offlineTonyosborne From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 62 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4605 times:

I am intrigued by now that was taken at 1/25th of a second, I would have thought that an aircraft travelling at about 150/160mph at that point would have produced far more movement, and probably a more blurred aircraft...not a critisism, merely an observation...


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User currently offlineRotate From Switzerland, joined Feb 2003, 1491 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4562 times:

Quoting Tonyosborne (Reply 14):
I am intrigued by now that was taken at 1/25th of a second, I would have thought that an aircraft travelling at about 150/160mph at that point would have produced far more movement, and probably a more blurred aircraft...not a critisism, merely an observation...

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Absolutely right, but we know what IS does and I am pretty sure Javier fired some frames away while moving perhaps his cam some mlms up - as he knows what he is doing. We all know : some shots turn out some not while trying to blur it ....

Robin



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User currently offlineJavibi From Spain, joined Oct 2004, 1371 posts, RR: 41
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4524 times:

Quoting Rotate (Reply 15):
I am pretty sure Javier fired some frames away while moving perhaps his cam some mlms up

Of course I chased the moving plane, otherwise it would have been blurred... the result is a somehow blurred background, I wonder if that was partly the reason for the quality rejection...

Cheers

j



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User currently offlineJavibi From Spain, joined Oct 2004, 1371 posts, RR: 41
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 4397 times:


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Javier Guerrero - AirTeamImages



Thanks!!!  Smile

j



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User currently offlineSinkrate From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 336 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 4396 times:

Well done mate. Congrats on getting this great shot in the database! Beautiful picture!

Michael


User currently offlineEadster From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2216 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 4369 times:

Yes good to see. It's the latest in my Album!

User currently offlineMygind66 From Spain, joined May 2004, 1058 posts, RR: 11
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4341 times:

You've got it Javier!!!

As usual  Wink

Congratulations

Enrique


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