Jetmatt777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2663 posts, RR: 36 Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1336 times:
If it was an airshow I doubt those would be contrails, more like airshow dust, since this is powder/dust even the slightest amount of wind would cause a disturbance
JeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 53 Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1288 times:
Gary2880 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1265 times:
for once i agree with Jeff. most teams say ''Smoke on'' not ''Dust on''
as for the blurr, no idea really. definatley isnt wind.
did you sneeze on the ccd possibly. almost looks like the kind of effect you may get while shooting through glass, was there maybe a smudge or something like that on your lens/filter that you can remember?
JeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 53 Reply 9, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1219 times:
Quoting Jamesbuk (Reply 7): the smoke that most display teams pour out of the back of the aircrafts.
fool
Fool?
It's absolutely rediculous that anyone would think that is dust.
IngemarE From Sweden, joined Mar 2005, 285 posts, RR: 5 Reply 10, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1204 times:
Quoting JeffM (Reply 9): It's absolutely rediculous that anyone would think that is dust.
To you or me, or anyone really interested in aviation, it might seem a bit on the "rediculous" side. On the other hand, for those who are not all that "into" it, and that might have come across the term (for example) crop-dusting, it might make perfect sense.
Now, to the issue...
If we are discussing the "anomaly" in the smoke coming from Swedish Air Force's Team60, I would say it's some kind of optical problem. Might be the glass or something stuck on the sensor, but most likely an editing problem. Looks like a small rectangular-shaped piece of the pic has been cut-out and displaced. I've never seen any aerodynamical disturbance like that before and I believe it to be highly unlikely that only 4 of 6 aircrafts in a tight formation experiences a shear, or vortice residue, creating a "hump" like that.
Hmmmm....
Anyway, Good night folks! I'm off to bed!
Eadster From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2214 posts, RR: 16 Reply 11, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1191 times:
Quoting JeffM (Reply 6): LOL.....what is "Airshow" dust?
Exactly! I've never ever heard someone call it dust - I thought everyone knew it was smoke!
That from looking at it, is not an atmospheric effect, caused by turbulence, windshear, or just wind, as it would be evident on all trails from that formation.
So I'm guessing it is a fault in photo editing or a blemish on the lens used.
Jetmatt777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2663 posts, RR: 36 Reply 14, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1037 times:
Quoting JeffM (Reply 9): It's absolutely rediculous that anyone would think that is dust
Quoting JeffM (Reply 6): LOL.....what is "Airshow" dust?
Quoting IngemarE (Reply 10): To you or me, or anyone really interested in aviation, it might seem a bit on the "rediculous" side. On the other hand, for those who are not all that "into" it, and that might have come across the term (for example) crop-dusting, it might make perfect sense.
Don't worry Im interested in aviation. Im not a half way into aviation person. I spend all day on A.net or Flight Sim. And see below:
I called it powder/dust because it actually isn't smoke. Is it from a flame, its powder. The reason I called it powder/dust is because when you go to an airshow and a plane thats trailing "smoke" swoops low to the ground do you see the "smoke" rise? No. You see it slowly fall to the ground. I don't know of any smoke that goes down.
Quoting Gary2880 (Reply 8): for once i agree with Jeff. most teams say ''Smoke on'' not ''Dust on''
IngemarE From Sweden, joined Mar 2005, 285 posts, RR: 5 Reply 15, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1029 times:
Quoting Jetmatt777 (Reply 14): Don't worry Im interested in aviation. Im not a half way into aviation person. I spend all day on A.net or Flight Sim.
If I have offended you in any way; I'm sorry!
...and what is it exactly they use!? Well, I know for sure in most cases it used to be diesel, that was sprayed into the exhaust gases.
Not too long ago though, I was at an airshow where the speaker for the Breitling team "bragged" about them being the "enviromentaly friendly" display team, because they use parafin instead of the good ol' "diesel solution". It smelled like old(ish)-style candles.
Jetmatt777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2663 posts, RR: 36 Reply 16, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1027 times:
Quoting IngemarE (Reply 15): If I have offended you in any way; I'm sorry!
JeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 53 Reply 17, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1013 times:
Quoting Jetmatt777 (Reply 14): Im not a half way into aviation person. I spend all day on A.net or Flight Sim.
Well, why didn't you say you were an expert!?!
...and by the way...it is smoke, not dust or powder.
Jetmatt777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2663 posts, RR: 36 Reply 18, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1006 times:
Quoting JeffM (Reply 17): Well, why didn't you say you were an expert!?!
...and by the way...it is smoke, not dust or powder.
JeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 53 Reply 19, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1001 times:
Quoting Jetmatt777 (Reply 18): I'm sorry Jeff for having my own oppinion.
No need to be sorry for having an opinion....I'm just telling you what the stuff actually is. There is a difference.
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