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User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3906 posts, RR: 19
Posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1813 times:

No claim to originality for this - but is it any good for airliners.net? I'm not sure about the standards for this type of shots.
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/PH-BZMptr.jpg
Thanks for your input,

Peter  Smile


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User currently offlineAero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1811 times:

Hello Peter.

This is a difficult type of shot.

It's nice, but IMO, it needs a little C.W. rotation, and is a little grainy. I think it can be saved, but not as it is now.

The wings are in a heat-haze, but I can't see if it's only from the engines, or not.

I'm surprised how many cows are near the runway.  Smile

-David


User currently offlineTimdeGroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 64
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1798 times:
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Too much heathaze on this one Peter. It's hit and miss, sometimes you get lucky and the jetwash disperses away from the aircraft, sometimes it becomes engulfed in it. Usually is the fuselage is clean the shot will be ok.

Tim



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User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3906 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1782 times:

Thanks David and Tim, will pull it.
Tim and some other guys obviously spent many, many early morings there, and I suppose I'll have to try much harder if I'm ever to produce something remotely like these. Ough!   

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Peter  

[Edited 2006-07-06 13:14:26]


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User currently offlineTimdeGroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 64
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1774 times:
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Thanks Peter Smile

Don't try to overdo it with too much zoom. That 747 you showed is one of the very few full 400mm shots that came out without any heathaze. Spectacular skies can make a shot as shown by Ed's example and you don't need more than 150-200mm for those.

Tim



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User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3906 posts, RR: 19
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1767 times:

Quoting TimdeGroot (Reply 4):
you don't need more than 150-200mm for those.

Sounds like a good tip, I can use a better lens then, too.

Do you recommend the elevated spot on the new bus viaduct?
It's something I should really find out myself, I know, but I can't seem to find where the bicycle path ends on the Hoofddorp side. Smile



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User currently offlineIL76 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2004, 2237 posts, RR: 49
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1764 times:

Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 5):
Do you recommend the elevated spot on the new bus viaduct?

You can try it, but over there you'll really need 400mm and heathaze/engine exhaust can be a real pain in the butt.

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User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 3968 posts, RR: 55
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1747 times:

Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 5):
It's something I should really find out myself, I know, but I can't seem to find where the bicycle path ends on the Hoofddorp side

Just go on the specialbus lane for the Zuidtangent with your bike. If you're fast enough, no-one will notice Big grin


User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3906 posts, RR: 19
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1737 times:

OK, thanks Kas. On the viaduct itself there is a bicycle lane, right? Or at least some room to stand without getting crushed by the first bus?  biggrin 


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User currently offlineIL76 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2004, 2237 posts, RR: 49
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1732 times:

Yes there is... Just follow the bicycle path from the Hoofddorp railway station.

User currently offlineAero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1714 times:

I'm the only non-Dutch person that has been posting in this thread!  Wow!

 Wink

-David


User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 3968 posts, RR: 55
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1708 times:

Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 8):
Or at least some room to stand without getting crushed by the first bus?

AFAIK there are no busses going over the viaduct yet? I don't know if it's open yet for the Zuidtangent (I've never seen them make use of it).

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 10):
I'm the only non-Dutch person that has been posting in this thread!

Good for you! Big grin


User currently offlineAero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 21
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1644 times:

Quoting AirKas1 (Reply 11):
Good for you!

Nope, bad for me.  Wink


User currently offlineThowman From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 363 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1597 times:

Which runway are these shot on? I'm making a second trip to AMS shortly, and some pointers would be nice where to go if I manage to get up early enough?

User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3906 posts, RR: 19
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1586 times:

Andy,

Rwy 06.
The spot closest to the runway lights is easy enough to find along the Hoofddorp-Aalsmeer main road (Kruisweg I believe), next to where it crosses the Amsterdam-The Hague highway (A4).
There are several gates and holes in the fence to shoot through.
If you have a car, park at McDonald's, across the highway.
Good luck!

Peter 

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User currently offlineThowman From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 363 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1555 times:

Ah, I think I know where that is, having had a good look on Google Earth. We'll be staying in the Bastion Hotel in Hoofddorp, so it won't be so far to walk, especially early in the morning.

What If 06 isn't in use first thing in the morning, which rwy is normally used?

Thanks

Andy


User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3906 posts, RR: 19
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1548 times:

Chances are that 06 is used for landings and 36L for takeoffs, or the other way around, ie, 24 for take-offs and 18R for landings.

If 24 is in use you might shoot take-offs from the same spot, of course, although smaller aircraft will rotate too far away.



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User currently offlineTimdeGroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 64
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1548 times:
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With northerly/easterly winds 06 is always used in the early morning.

Tim



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User currently offlineINNflight From Austria, joined Apr 2004, 3765 posts, RR: 60
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1539 times:

Just out of interest, the buildings visible are from your WTC, aren't they?
Been there doing some photography after you dropped me off at the Schiphol Plaza Ed, got on the wrong train after that though  Wink

Quoting IL76 (Reply 6):


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User currently offlineIL76 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2004, 2237 posts, RR: 49
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1538 times:

Quoting INNflight (Reply 18):
Just out of interest, the buildings visible are from your WTC, aren't they?

Yes, I think so. WTC, the headoffice of ABN-AMRO and ING bank, it's all over there...


User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 3968 posts, RR: 55
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1538 times:

Quoting INNflight (Reply 18):
Just out of interest, the buildings visible are from your WTC, aren't they?

I think so, yes  Smile


User currently offlineErwin972 From Netherlands, joined May 2004, 500 posts, RR: 44
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1523 times:

Quoting TimdeGroot (Reply 2):
It's hit and miss, sometimes you get lucky and the jetwash disperses away from the aircraft, sometimes it becomes engulfed in it.

Indeed, and you could also try some afternoon take-offs from there:


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Erwin



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User currently offlineThowman From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 363 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1512 times:

Erwin & others

Looking at the picture and comparing it with Google Earth, the road crossing infront of the runway is the N201 Kruisweg? Therefore to get that kind of elevation, are you standing on the slip road coming off the E19?

You have a number of runway liights prior to the road, but I cannot see where this elevation is from?

Cheers

Andy


User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 3968 posts, RR: 55
Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1499 times:

Quoting Thowman (Reply 22):
I cannot see where this elevation is from?



Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 5):
the elevated spot on the new bus viaduct

Dunno if you can see that on Google Earth though..


User currently offlineThowman From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 363 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1492 times:

Quoting AirKas1 (Reply 23):
Dunno if you can see that on Google Earth though..

If it's new, then it's unlikely to be there. But I have an idea now, thanks.


User currently offlinePtrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3906 posts, RR: 19
Reply 25, posted (8 years 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1412 times:

I came across this cool one.

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Here, on the right, to the right of the telecom tower, the building with the spire is the Rembrandttoren, Amsterdam's tallest. It's a bit further back than the others which are along the south leg of the ring road, called the South Axis.



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