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User currently offlineRodge From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 189 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2464 times:

Hi Guy's,

Let me start by saying I know I am not anywhere near A.Net standard, but i'm trying!

Here are some shots I took on Saturday at Liverpool. None have been edited at all yet. Please could you tell me if any are worth keeping/uploading and how to further improve my shots.

(1)

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g230/dave_rogers/IMAG0040.jpg
Ryanair 737

(2)

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g230/dave_rogers/IMAG0020.jpg
Futura 737

(3)

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g230/dave_rogers/IMAG0017.jpg
Again....

(4)

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g230/dave_rogers/IMAG0014.jpg
And again.......


There are currently no shots of the Futura 737 @ LPL in the database, would this make a difference?

Thanks in advance,
Rodge


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User currently offlineFlightShadow From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 937 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2436 times:

None of them will make it into the database, even with awesome editing. Did you use digital zoom? If you did, that's a big no-no. If not...I'm not sure? You look to be getting pretty close to the action there...


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User currently offlineRodge From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 189 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2431 times:

Thanks for your reply.

Quoting FlightShadow (Reply 1):
None of them will make it into the database

Hence my question, How do I improve?



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User currently offlineEDDL From Germany, joined Dec 2002, 738 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2431 times:

Quoting Rodge (Reply 2):
Hence my question, How do I improve?

Sorry for this ... buy a new camera.  white 


User currently offlineRodge From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 189 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2425 times:

Quoting EDDL (Reply 3):
buy a new camera

Probably the best idea  Big grin

What sort of price do you have to spend to get pics accepted here? The photos above were taken as stills with a video camera (4 mega pixel).

I don't want to start a war, but what is the best make of camera to buy?



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User currently offlineEDDL From Germany, joined Dec 2002, 738 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2423 times:

Quoting Rodge (Reply 4):
What sort of price do you have to spend to get pics accepted here?

Don't buy a camera just to get pictures accepted here. A big no-no. Enjoy taking photos ... for youself, not for A.net. Best way to avoid frustration.

Quoting Rodge (Reply 4):
The photos above were taken as stills with a video camera (4 mega pixel).

Bad idea, there's nothing to save in those image unfortunately.

Quoting Rodge (Reply 4):
I don't want to start a war, but what is the best make of camera to buy?

If you are serious with this hobby, buy a decent DSLR and some nice lenses (Canon, Nikon, ...). The new point&shoot cameras are quite good aswell, but don't let the megapixel count fool you. IMHO images taken with 3 MP DSLR's are way better than most pictures from 10+ MP P&S cameras.

What's your budget?

Phil / EDDL

[Edited 2006-07-10 14:45:30]

User currently offlineRodge From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 189 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2418 times:

There isn't a budget really, but I'm not interested in getting million dollar pics or buying the most expensive gear.

The photos I take are purely for me and my hobby. I am not interested in generating the highest number of hits or whatever, I'm not really in it for getting pics accepted, although I am aiming for a simelar quality to what is here. I just want to improve my shooting generally.

Thanks for the info so far.



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User currently offlineEDDL From Germany, joined Dec 2002, 738 posts, RR: 16
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2416 times:

Quoting Rodge (Reply 6):
I just want to improve my shooting generally.

 thumbsup 

That's the best approach here! In this case I'd recommend a lower end DSLR (e. g. Canon EOS 350D or Nikon D70) and some basic lenses ... let's say a kit lens 18-55 / 18-70 and a basic telephoto lens 75-300 / 70-300. That's all you need in the beginning and even later on. It will take quite some time before you "outgrow" those DSLRs.

Phil / EDDL


User currently offlineFlightShadow From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 937 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2373 times:

I have a FujiFilm FinePix S3100 (Point and Shoot, 150 USD Refurbished, 6x OPT Zoom, 4 MP) and have yet to get a photo accepted here from that camera, although I've come close (I have 50+ shots on the "other" website from this camera). Believe it or not, all my accepted photos were from my Canon 3.2 mpxl P&S (all were static shots though)

I think, if your budget is somewhat tight and don't want the hassle of a DSLR, go for the higher end of the P&S market like the Fuji S5600 or S9000/9500. There are plenty of shots from those cameras in the database.



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User currently offlinePsych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 3043 posts, RR: 59
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2360 times:
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Hi Rodge.

I am no expert, but I have looked at a lot of photos here and by other photographers and - although there will be exceptions to prove the rule - I would say that generally a DSLR image has a higher quality to that produced by a Point and Shoot - even the more expensive ones.

I started my journey into digital photography with a good quality Canon P&S and I was very impressed with the quality of the images. But that was for everyday photography; once I started taking photos of planes with a view to acceptance here, I found I was way off the quality mark. Now I use a DSLR, and have spent time here developing my obsessionality for detail and quality  wink , nothing but DSLR will do. Once edited, the quality is massively superior to anything I could get with the P&S.

Forgetting A.net, if you like the idea of high quality images, get a DSLR - I can recommend the Canon 350D, with a lens as described by Phil above. Not only will you be very pleased with the quality, but a set up like that will enable you to have the quality to get photos on here should you choose, no question, with suitable editing and a bit of work. In the UK you can get that camera with a lens for well under £500 now. Not hugely more expensive than the superior non-DSLR options. The Canon cameras usually come with Photoshop Elements too, which is all you really need on the editing front (unless you want to make editing a speciality).

Good luck and all the best.

Paul


User currently offlineCJA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2332 times:

Hi,

Composition is also important. When you get your new camera and return to the same place try moving 75 yards down the road where there is a nice whole in the hedge. From here you can get good shots of aircraft on the turn to the holding point. With the right lighting conditions (ie early morning and winter) the aircraft will be facing into the sun which is ideal for highlighting detail, especially engine intakes etc.

Some may disagree but one thing that I have learnt is that no matter how good your kit may be, if you don’t have good light or a good vantage point your results will be disappointing.


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