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Want To Share A Motive Rejection  
User currently offlineRotate From Switzerland, joined Feb 2003, 1491 posts, RR: 16
Posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3938 times:

Hello

I just want to share a motive rejection. Just wonder where this shot is so different to other close ups. Anyway I wont send those shoots in anymore - the message is clear now for me - no experiments! Thought I got everything right with the nice morning light, quality and very interesting details, well ....

http://www2.airliners.net/addphotos/...big/20060711_HB-IQJ-ZRH-060306.jpg

Robin

typo

[Edited 2006-07-11 12:05:35]


ABC
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User currently offlineStealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5697 posts, RR: 44
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3929 times:
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NOOOOO Robin,
Keep experimenting... if folks stopped experimenting the site would die... deader than a dodo!
Keep pushing the limits.. reject rate might be high but the ones that get in will be special!!!



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User currently offlineFlyingZacko From Germany, joined May 2005, 583 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3926 times:

For what it's worth I really like looking at closeups and I really like this one. Looks like some late afternoon light at ZRH here, absolutely stunning to me. I am not sure what would warrant a motive rejection here though. Just out of curiousity, what focal lenght is this taken at?

Cheers,
Sebastian



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User currently offlineAero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3915 times:

You cut a window on the right side an door on the left side - I guess that is explaining the motiv rejection.

But please don't blame me if that's not the problem...

Nice picture, Robin!

-David  wave 


User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 28
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3901 times:

Nice one, as far as I'm concerned.


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User currently offlineJumboJim747 From Australia, joined Oct 2004, 2464 posts, RR: 44
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3901 times:

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 3):
You cut a window on the right side an door on the left side - I guess that is explaining the motiv rejection.

The focus of the picture is the Gears and the engine not the doors and the windows.

Quoting Rotate (Thread starter):
I just want to share a motive rejection.

Might be a wrong box ticked somewhere robin hope a screener chips in here and lets us know .
I would hate people to stop experimenting with shots lets give it a go and see what happens.
Cheers



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User currently onlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11359 posts, RR: 52
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3880 times:

I love looking at certain people's rejections... Great shot!

I'd be curious if the motive rejection is because of the identifiable face looking at you from the plane.



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User currently offlineBubbles From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1195 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3842 times:
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I guess the motive rejection is caused by the crop. The main purpose of this shot should be the engine and the tyres. However a portion of upper fuselage and cabin windows have been included. And I could see two passengers faces, looking out from the windows. That might also contribute the motive rejection.

Just my 2 cents!  twocents 

Cheers,
_Hongyin_  wave 


User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3823 times:

Quoting D L X (Reply 6):
I'd be curious if the motive rejection is because of the identifiable face looking at you from the plane.

It should have been badpeople then.

Harry



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User currently offlinePUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4163 posts, RR: 54
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3820 times:

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 8):
It should have been badpeople then.

If anything NOA_people  Wink



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User currently onlineWakeTurbulence From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1294 posts, RR: 16
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3793 times:

Am I the only person who looks at the grass? I thought that might contribute to a motive rejection.
-Matt



Jetwash Images - Feel the Heat!!!
User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3780 times:

Quoting PUnmuth@VIE (Reply 9):
If anything NOA_people

Still can't get rid of the old rejections in my head.  Wink

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlinePrat From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 229 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3764 times:

Tough rejection, but I like the photo none the less. Well done.

User currently offlineCodeshare From Poland, joined Sep 2002, 1854 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3735 times:

Appeal, but it also looks badlevel.

KS/codeshare



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User currently offlineRotate From Switzerland, joined Feb 2003, 1491 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3707 times:

Quoting StealthZ (Reply 1):
Keep experimenting... if folks stopped experimenting the site would die...

Right, but I let the other people do that, it can be very frustrating ...

Quoting FlyingZacko (Reply 2):
Just out of curiousity, what focal lenght is this taken at?

400mm x 1.2 = 480mm

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 3):
You cut a window on the right side an door on the left side - I guess that is explaining the motiv rejection.



Quoting D L X (Reply 6):
I'd be curious if the motive rejection is because of the identifiable face looking at you from the plane.



Quoting Bubbles (Reply 7):
However a portion of upper fuselage and cabin windows have been included. And I could see two passengers faces, looking out from the windows.



Quoting PUnmuth@VIE (Reply 9):
Quoting Newark777 (Reply 8):
It should have been badpeople then.

If anything NOA_people



Quoting WakeTurbulence (Reply 10):
Am I the only person who looks at the grass? I thought that might contribute to a motive rejection.



Quoting JumboJim747 (Reply 5):
Might be a wrong box ticked somewhere robin hope a screener chips in here and lets us know .

Thx vm guys for all the suggestions ... , as unfortunately no screener decided to give a hint I never know for what exactly it had been rejected.
The message is once again pretty clear to me ...

Quoting Codeshare (Reply 13):
Appeal, but it also looks badlevel.

KS/codeshare

Not going to risk that, as said it looks like there a thousand reasons why it is a motive rejection, additionaly Motive rejections are so objective that the chances are very low to get them in via the appeal button.

Thx vm guys for helping me out and giving some kind words ...

Robin



ABC
User currently offlineShep From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3698 times:

Nice shot - but nothing extraordinary. I speak here as a former screener (pats self on back)  Smile Level a bit off with noise on gear door - due to heat I guess... another former screener (Mofo) suggested bad people - but I don't see it since the facial images are vague - no real clear identity here... oh well, I think Peter was joking anyways. I will say - Peter was a screening machine - he was the real deal - there will never be another one like him, but then again, there are a few that are amazing as well - I won't say names til they retire like me and Peter did.

Anyways - if the plane was touching down with rubber burn - or taking off with heat distortion burning in a cool way - you might have captured something special with a close-up like this.

Keep experimenting - don't be afraid of rejection. Sure, it's easy for me to say, since I shoot boring stuff - mostly new registrations so they usually make the cut. But I am here to say - don't quit taking chances Robin - as someone stated above - this site would become very complacent without innovative photographers like you, who are willing to take a chance...

Having said this, I will pat myself again on the back, fill my glass with more whiskey, and look for you to keep taking chances...  bigthumbsup 


User currently offlinePUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4163 posts, RR: 54
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3694 times:

Quoting Shep (Reply 15):
another former screener (Mofo) suggested bad people

No I did not. Another member did so but with the incorrect reason  Wink

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 8):
It should have been badpeople then

I wrote

Quoting PUnmuth@VIE (Reply 9):
If anything NOA_people

Which would not have been a reason to reject this photo a few months back. Not sure if it would apply nowadays.



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