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User currently offlineTZ From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2003, 1085 posts, RR: 53
Posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4201 times:
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Please don't forget that photographs from the Farnborough air show qualify for Priority Screening. Please ensure that you:
1. Tick the "Priority Screening" box, and
2. Include the precise text "Farnborough International Airshow 2006" in your remark .

Priority screening will be valid until the closure of the show at 23:59 on Sunday 23-July.

TZ


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User currently offlineRotate From Switzerland, joined Feb 2003, 1491 posts, RR: 16
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4166 times:

Quoting TZ (Thread starter):
Priority screening will be valid until the closure of the show at 23:59 on Sunday 23-July.

Very nice! Now all screeners are working on Farnborough pics. Defenetely not helping the queque at all. Really dont get why all 10 days are priority?? I think this site is totally heading in the wrong direction ...

Robin



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User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9607 posts, RR: 69
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4155 times:
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I think this site is totally heading in the wrong direction ...

The good news is that you can leave anytime you want! No one will even try to stop you. Honest.


User currently offlineRotate From Switzerland, joined Feb 2003, 1491 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4145 times:

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 2):
The good news is that you can leave anytime you want! No one will even try to stop you. Honest.

Dont understand why you are so offensive?
I know that this is a news worthy event and so on, but after the 4th or 5th day the DB is flooded with "Doubles". But anyway I got your message Royal.



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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4133 times:

Quoting Rotate (Reply 3):
Dont understand why you are so offensive?

Because he can't take criticism.

Harry



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User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9607 posts, RR: 69
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4130 times:
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My message is this, it is easy to sit and criticize every move that is made by the people that donate their time to run this website. It seems that certain people having nothing better to do but complain about stuff that, in the big picture of life, just isn't that important. So what if there are doubles? If we didn't do it that way the posts would be "you screened his but not mine, boo hoo hoo." And if we did priority screen these then someone would be mad about that. And since we are priority screening these, but not the Glistening Tip, Montana air show someone will be mad about that, too.

You are a talented photographer, but your actions make me wonder if you might not be happier someplace else.


User currently offlineCosec59 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4124 times:

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 5):
My message is this, it is easy to sit and criticize every move that is made by the people that donate their time

And without the photographers where would the site be Royal?
Please remember the time WE take too


User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4114 times:

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 5):

Your problem is that you take everything personally, then go off on these rants about how much time you put into the site.

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 5):
in the big picture of life

In the big picture of life, nothing on this site is important, including all the screening and work here you do.

Guess what? This is only an little internet site, and you seem to think it is something more.

Harry



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User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9607 posts, RR: 69
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4110 times:
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Phil, an excellent point. And certainly a valid one. Each member of the screening team is also a photographer, in most cases quite established on this website.

We like getting feedback from our photogs, but criticizing a decision that will benefit alot of photogs seems spiteful. Why not send an email to the screening team? Or take it up in Site Related? There are options.

The worse thing you can do is be like one of those people who can't make the high standards of quality that this site requires, so their "contribution" is to come in here and start threads that are negative.


User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4110 times:

Wow! A simple message to uploaders about Farnborough and WWIII breaks out!  Yeah sure

Here you are guys...one for each of you! Big grin



User currently offlineThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2069 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4082 times:
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Quoting Rotate (Reply 1):
Very nice! Now all screeners are working on Farnborough pics. Defenetely not helping the queque at all. Really dont get why all 10 days are priority??

Priority or not is not changing a thing; there are 2 possibilities: either the Farnborough pics are screened right away as priority and are removed quickly from the queue or they are left at the end of the queue and fill it up. Either way they will be submitted and will have to pass the screening one day.
However due to the recent news aspect of priority screening they'll normally be added faster to the database and thus this procedure is doing the queue more good as if they were simply added to the end of the queue and would pass ("slow") non-priority screening.
Just a point to take into consideration...

Thierry

[Edited 2006-07-12 21:59:55]


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User currently offlineSpencer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1635 posts, RR: 17
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3974 times:

I don't really see why FAB should be made a priority anyway, could someone please explain? Honest, no sarcasm here.....
Spencer.



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User currently offlineBrianW999 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 312 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3955 times:

Will RIAT Fairford be a priority as well ?

User currently offlineUA935 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 610 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3951 times:

Quoting BrianW999 (Reply 12):
Will RIAT Fairford be a priority as well ?

No I don't think so, I believe only trade shows get priority such as Farnborough, Paris and Berlin.

It is usually these shows which display the latest hardware etc and this is why they get priority.

Simon



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User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11215 posts, RR: 52
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3938 times:

Do we have any evidence that this kind of priority actually slows down the queue for the rest of us? I mean, doesn't it also impose a certain quickness on the photographers that want to upload? That will weed out a lot of the shots that would clog the queue, I would think.

Maybe all that we need is for assurances that the screeners won't let 5000 shots taken from the first day to enter the queue on the last day of priority.

[Edited 2006-07-13 18:37:56]


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User currently offlineLGW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3914 times:

Hi all,

Although the system is already in place and the decision made, seeing as others have voiced an opinion I personally would like to see priority for the week before FAB, like Tony Best has been doing, uploading shots already of aircraft arriving for the show etc that way we get to see much of the FAB shots early but it doesn't take screeners time up screening 2,500 shots of the whale on her flying display? It is only a personal view and not in anyway an attack on the system, site or the screeners but not just for the sake of the queue but we will probably end up with nothing but whale shots being uploaded for weeks  bored  I understand Tamsin's post was just to provide info but it's just my take on it and nothing more

Ben

[Edited 2006-07-13 19:12:41]

User currently offlineJan Mogren From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 2043 posts, RR: 51
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3893 times:

Quoting LGW (Reply 15):
Tamsin's post

Who is that?  scratchchin 

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User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3872 times:

Quoting Jan Mogren (Reply 16):
Quoting LGW (Reply 15):
Tamsin's post

Who is that?



User currently offlineRotorImage From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 40 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3808 times:

Ok....Just to make sure I'm not smoking crack here....

What exactly are the dates of the Farnborough Air Show.....?

The reason I ask.....I have [trade] tickets to attend the show on the 21st of July (Friday), and the show website (http://www.farnborough.com) lists the dates of the show as 17-23 July...

However, these shots below, and a bunch of others, from July 12th, have just shown up in the database.


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What am I missing? Would I be correct in assuming that these are shots from aircraft rehearsal days or something? I'm on a trip to the States right now and I'm just trying to figure out if I messed up the dates in my planner, or perhaps passed through a black hole on my flight across the pond.....

Thanks!


User currently offlineBruce From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5047 posts, RR: 15
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3796 times:

I really think that other air shows should get priority screening, such as Oshkosh for example. Its not like you're going to have two dozen photographers submitting pics from OSH.... I browsed the 13 priority-screened farnborough pics today and most are military a/c...couple performers too including a MiG-29. So, why are they special? Why is a Marines Osprey at this show special? Why would a C-17 at OSH not be the same? Or a B-1 bomber at OSH? Anyway...you get my point. Sure, there are going to be newsworthy moments at FAB - like the A380 and another two dozen shots of it (..rolls eyes) but not every plane.

bruce



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User currently offlineStealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5678 posts, RR: 45
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3796 times:
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Quoting D L X (Reply 14):
I mean, doesn't it also impose a certain quickness on the photographers that want to upload? That will weed out a lot of the shots that would clog the queue,

On the contrary, It has the potential to clog the priority queue with shots that in the fullness of time and upon some reappraisal by the photog may not have been uploaded. The rush to get them in before the priority deadline maybe too much temptation.

Quoting UA935 (Reply 13):
Quoting BrianW999 (Reply 12):
Will RIAT Fairford be a priority as well ?

No I don't think so, I believe only trade shows get priority such as Farnborough, Paris and Berlin.

And why ONLY those shows? I have asked this before but is a particularly Eurocentric view of the world. There are other major Aviation trade shows.

Quoting UA935 (Reply 13):
It is usually these shows which display the latest hardware etc and this is why they get priority.

Really, can someone show me anything actually newsworthy that was photographed at Berlin ILA and I challenge anyone to find something new and unseen at Farnborough.

These shows have long since ceased being where fantastic new developments are unveiled to an awestruck public or chequebook waving customers. Sure they are an opportunity to display wares along with wining and dining customers but in this highspeed and media intensive world.. very little news is held back for these shows.

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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3781 times:

Quoting StealthZ (Reply 20):

And why ONLY those shows? I have asked this before but is a particularly Eurocentric view of the world. There are other major Aviation trade shows.

Especially when you have shots like the ones above getting priority. Not that they are not very nice shots, but priority? The show hasn't even started yet.

Harry



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User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 52
Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3766 times:

Let's just do away with priority screening and then there won't be anything to argue over.

User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 50
Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3749 times:

There should be priority screening for all airshow. Set a limit of 50 priority uploads for the "regular" shows.

User currently offlineJumboJim747 From Australia, joined Oct 2004, 2464 posts, RR: 44
Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3738 times:
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Quoting Maiznblu_757 (Reply 23):
There should be priority screening for all airshow. Set a limit of 50 priority uploads for the "regular" shows.

I like this idea .
But why not make it first 50 to get in then all others will have to wait the normal time.
Sounds like a great idea to me.
Cheers



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25 Eadster : Good idea too I think, but the "boo hoo hooing" will start again because 50 is not enough and folks have missed a place. I say scrap priority screeni
26 Post contains images Gary2880 : or .... do away with regular screening and make everyones priority
27 Post contains links and images Woody001 : From an ex-screeners point of view I can't see a problem with the priority upload feature - if users used it correctly. It doesn't take that much more
28 Post contains images LHRSIMON : There test flights , practice flights and aircraft bringing goods+aircraft for the show..... Nice photo's Ian Simon C
29 Post contains images Woody001 : Cheers Simon. If you go next week take plenty of sunscreen, me = Cheers, Ian.
30 Viv : We take photographs because we want to do so. We upload here because we want to do so. If we did not devote our time to these activities, we would de
31 Post contains images Cosec59 : As is screening
32 Viv : Yes, but screening is an unselfish sacrifice of one's time to the benefit of others. There is the difference.
33 Sulman : Chill guys. Everything works out, we'll get to see the pictures in good time no matter what.
34 DC10Tim : If the wait after uploading was short enough, there would be no need for it. I'm not bellyaching about the queue length, but wouldn't it be better? I
35 Post contains images Maiznblu_757 : I could have swore I said that.
36 Newark777 : Yep, that's my opinion on the matter as well. Just because something is at the airshow in the first place doesn't make it priority material. Harry
37 JumboJim747 : You did Chad i was just stamping my 2 cents worth to the idea which is a very good one. Cheers
38 DC10Tim : I suppose it comes down again, as with the World Cup Final shot, what is deemed "newsworthy". Obviously the Farnborough show creates a lot of interes
39 Newark777 : Exactly, you just have to use common sense. Like the 777LR at Le Bourget, it wasn't exactly new, but it was still newsworthy. But that plane parked i
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