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With A Limited Budget What Is The Best SLR?  
User currently offlineCOEXpilot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 5622 times:

I have a 8 month old:
Lumix FZ30. I take pictures of a lot of stuff on trips like scenery, people, sights etc. For those it's great. This camera is simply not fit for aviation though. I take it to work a lot. I don't like to take flight deck stuff, but I have taken over 1,000 photos of different a/c all over the place. My best ones over the past months always get rejected. There is simply NO quality fit for A.net. I have been saving up. I currently am at about $2,500. I dont have 4,000 bucks for 2,000 dollar lenses and a Canon 5D.

So what I am wondering is what is the best combo of a good SLR and 400mm zoom lenses that can fit the camera.(ie. 80-400, 100-400.) Both adding to 2,500 or maybe 2,800.

Thanks a lot. -Blake

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User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 5614 times:

Quoting COEXpilot (Thread starter):
I currently am at about $2,500

I would go for the Canon Digital Rebel XT 8MP Digital SLR Camera with EF-S 18-55mm f3.5-5.6 Lens and the Canon EF 100-400mm f4.5-5.6L IS USM Telephoto Zoom Lens. Perfect combo since it's what I use!  Wink


User currently offlineCOEXpilot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 5609 times:

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 1):
I would go for the Canon Digital Rebel XT 8MP Digital SLR Camera with EF-S 18-55mm f3.5-5.6 Lens and the Canon EF 100-400mm f4.5-5.6L IS USM Telephoto Zoom Lens. Perfect combo since it's what I use!  

I was lookin around some camera store websites and that combo looked like a great winner and within a good budget.


User currently offlineAero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 5600 times:

I think you will be a little dissappointed when your short lens does only zoom to 55mm and the least zoom on the long zoom is 100mm. What is to cover the 55-100mm?

I have an idea:

Canon EF 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5 II USM.

I think some A.netters have it, and it is told to be better than the 28-135 IS (quality-wise).

I would buy the 28-105 - if I hadn't planned other lenses as the next lenses.

Regards,
David

PS: Forgot: The 18-55 100-400 sounds pretty nice, and with the 28-105 II USM even nicer. And of course you could try Nikons - they're told to be good also.


User currently offlineCOEXpilot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5594 times:

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 3):
Canon EF 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5 II USM.

So I aim to buy just the body and get the 28-105 and whatever high zoom lenses. hmm, sounds like a good idea.

Anyone got a price on the 28-105 Canon lenses?


User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5590 times:

David,

The guy said he has about $2500 to spend and he wants a zoom of around 400mm. This is (imo) the perfect combo.  Smile

However, saying that, I do wish I could afford to get the 24-105.


User currently offlineTimdeGroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 64
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5587 times:
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Wow these days $2500 is already considered a limited budget Smile I think my first SLR was worth about $50

Tim



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User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5572 times:

Quoting TimdeGroot (Reply 6):
I think my first SLR was worth about $50

And I bet there's a pic of you in your nappy to prove it.


User currently offlineAero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 18
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 5540 times:

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 5):
However, saying that, I do wish I could afford to get the 24-105.

Ian.

The Canon EF 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5 II USM is a consumer zoom, which, as far as I know, costs $300. I'm not talking about the $1400 EF 24-105L.  Smile

Regards,
David

PS: COEXpilot: The 28-105 costs $237.1 at Amazon - I think its price can go up to $300.

350D + 18-55: $600
100-400: $1400
28-105: $300

That makes $2300.

I think this combo should be all right...


User currently offlineTimdeGroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 64
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5535 times:
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Be sure to get the good 28-105, there are 2 versions.

Tim



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User currently offlineEDDL From Germany, joined Dec 2002, 738 posts, RR: 16
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5531 times:

28 mm on the lower end are way too much on a crop sensor (350D / Digital Rebel), so consider the 17-85 USM IS instead. Try the 24-85 if you are really tight on your budget.

User currently offlineGVerbeeck From Belgium, joined Mar 2005, 245 posts, RR: 24
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 5512 times:

Quoting TimdeGroot (Reply 9):
Be sure to get the good 28-105, there are 2 versions.

Indeed, you're looking at the f/3.5-4.5 version; there's an f/4-5.6 version too IIRC which had the lousy micro USM.


User currently offlineAero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 18
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 5511 times:

Quoting GVerbeeck (Reply 11):

Indeed, you're looking at the f/3.5-4.5 version; there's an f/4-5.6 version too IIRC which had the lousy micro USM.

Indeed. Be sure that you get the 3.5-4.5 II version - as it has more aperture blades and (as far as I know) better build quality. I can't guarantee however that the previous 3.5-4.5 version is for sale new anywhere.

Giovanni, what type do you have (if you still have it (if you had it))?


User currently offlineGVerbeeck From Belgium, joined Mar 2005, 245 posts, RR: 24
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 5499 times:

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 12):
what type do you have (if you still have it (if you had it))?

I have the original 28-105 f/3.5-4.5. It has five blades instead of eight (right?) the Mk.II version has. AFAIK there is no difference in optical or mechanical quality between both lenses.

Giovanni


User currently offlineAero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 18
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5478 times:

Quoting GVerbeeck (Reply 13):
(right?)

No, 7.


User currently offlineAC773 From Canada, joined Nov 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 5447 times:

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 3):
I think some A.netters have it, and it is told to be better than the 28-135 IS (quality-wise).

Rubbish! I'll wipe the floor with your 28-105 any day of the week!  biggrin 

Seriously though, the IS has saved scores of my pictures from the bin. The extra 30mm is always handy to have as well, though I still need something longer (pondering 70-300 IS).



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User currently offlineCOEXpilot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 5433 times:

Thanks for all the advice guys. I will be going

Canon Digital Rebel XT body only

Canon EF 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5 II USM Standard Zoom

Canon EF 100-400mm f4.5-5.6L IS USM Telephoto

I can't wait to start shooting. Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin

Is the Digital Rebel hard to learn?


User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 50
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days ago) and read 5426 times:

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 3):
Canon EF 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5 II USM.

I think some A.netters have it, and it is told to be better than the 28-135 IS (quality-wise).

The only thing the 28-135mm has going for it is IS. As far as quality goes, the 28-105mm F3.5-4.5 II wins hands down.

That said, I recently replaced the 28-105mm and picked up the 24-105mm F/4 L IS. Beats em both.  Wink


User currently offlineNicolasRubio From Argentina, joined Sep 2005, 584 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5421 times:

Quoting COEXpilot (Reply 16):
Thanks for all the advice guys. I will be going

Canon Digital Rebel XT body only

Canon EF 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5 II USM Standard Zoom

Canon EF 100-400mm f4.5-5.6L IS USM Telephoto

I can't wait to start shooting. Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin

Is the Digital Rebel hard to learn?

You are missing: 1 GB Extreme III CompactFlash Card --> 60

And in case you want: BG-E3 battery grip --> 140 and Starter Kit for 350D --> 75

That makes almost... 2700 dollars...



Gripped 7D + Sigma 10-20mm + 17-40L + 50mm f/1.8 II + 70-200mm f/4L IS + EF 400mm f/5.6L + 580EX II
User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 5417 times:

Quoting COEXpilot (Reply 16):
Is the Digital Rebel hard to learn?

No, the menu is pretty easy to follow. I agree with the other poster though about the battery grip otherwise the camera is a bit small and feels much better to handle with it on and an extra battery inside - you really will appreciate it.
 Smile


User currently offlineCOEXpilot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 5407 times:

Quoting NicolasRubio (Reply 18):
1 GB Extreme III CompactFlash Card

I went with the six gig..  Wink

I will have to check out the local Ritz for the batter grip.. If they don't have it I will order it later.

Thanks guys.


User currently offlineJRowson From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 354 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5392 times:

I'd seriously recommend lookinng at getting the battery grip for the 350D, especially if you're getting a 100-400. Not only will it give you better battery life but it will provide a much better balanced camera to hold. I've played about with the 350D a couple of times and for me it's too small. The grip added on just gives it that extra bit of bulk.


James Rowson. Canonite and lover of all things L. JAR Photography.
User currently offlineAero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 18
Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 5384 times:

Quoting COEXpilot (Reply 16):
Canon Digital Rebel XT body only

Canon EF 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5 II USM Standard Zoom

Canon EF 100-400mm f4.5-5.6L IS USM Telephoto

Nice

With this:

"You are missing: 1 GB Extreme III CompactFlash Card --> 60

And in case you want: BG-E3 battery grip --> 140 and Starter Kit for 350D --> 75"

And maybe the 18-55 sometime if 28mm are not wide enough for you.

And when you want primes, you can try the Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II as the first prime.


User currently offlineLHRman From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 398 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5266 times:

My sturdy setup includes a Canon 300D (still a bloody good camera) with 2 bits of glass a 100-400L IS and a 24-105L IS. This lot if brought nowadays probs around £2000 (give or take a £100) which correspondes to about $3500 which isnt terrible and this setup hasnt done me bad.

I also agree that 18-55 & 100-400 is a good combo as I used that for a while before upgrading to the 24-105 (I still keep the 18-55 for really wide angle stuff). Also a battery grip is a must with small cam's such as (300D/350D) as it makes the camera more sturdy in your hands.

Hope this helps and look forward to seeing the results from your iminant purchase..

Thanks..
Dave P
Capital Aviation Photography



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