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User currently offlineMauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2490 posts, RR: 25
Posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2750 times:

After 1,5 year of non-photography (aviation) im planning to pick up the cam again and go to AMS one of these days. Last week i replaced my 300D with a 350D and bought a tamron 70-300 4-5.6.

But since i was out for 1,5 year, i really don't know wich setting i need to use on my 350D.

I know that the best way to shoot planes is with the AV mode, and 100 ISO, but which other settings do i need to use?


Looking forward to take pictures again,

greetings maurice.

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User currently offlineTimdeGroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 64
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2749 times:
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Hi Maurice,

Good to see you picked it up again. This topic however has been discussed to death recently, so do a forum search first if you can find the answers you're looking for.

Quoting MauriceB (Thread starter):
i really don't know wich setting i need to use on my 350D.

The short answer would be: the same you used on your 300D.

Cheers
Tim



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User currently offlineMauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2490 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2739 times:

Sorry tim, i will do a search.., and i know that i have to use the same settings as my 300D, but i just sold that one, and i really have no idea....



thanks, and sorry, maurice


User currently offlineJumboJim747 From Australia, joined Oct 2004, 2465 posts, RR: 44
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2691 times:

Quoting MauriceB (Reply 2):
thanks, and sorry, maurice

No need to be sorry mate we are all here to help.
Let me just give you a rough idea .
Usually people on this site swear by Aperture mode at f8 all in camera processing to OFF do that later yourself in PS and ISO 100.
Ofcourse it depends on the time of day as when it gets darker you can bump up the ISO a little maybe to 200 or 400 but be careful as this induces grain and noise.
Also you might want to go down in aperture when it gets dark say 7.1 or 6.3 or as low as your lens will go as far down as 2.8 if the lens can handle it.
This will keep up your shutter speed but reduce your depth of field.
Happy shooting and good luck.
Cheers



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User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2672 times:

Quoting MauriceB (Thread starter):
I know that the best way to shoot planes is with the AV mode, and 100 ISO,

 rotfl  Why in the world would you say that?


User currently offlineAero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 19
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2653 times:

Quoting JeffM (Reply 4):
rotfl Why in the world would you say that?

Jeff, as far as I know, Maurice is not an über expert in shooting M-mode on JPG, as you are.


User currently offlineEadster From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2216 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 23 hours ago) and read 2635 times:

Quoting JeffM (Reply 4):
Why in the world would you say that?

And because a few people seem to hand on those settings here, which I don't know why...


User currently offlineMauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2490 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 20 hours ago) and read 2618 times:

Jeff forgive me, its 1,5 years since i made Aviation photos for the last time  Wink


ty all.


User currently offlineEDDL From Germany, joined Dec 2002, 738 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 20 hours ago) and read 2612 times:

With that lens don't go below f8 in order to get acceptable sharpness. So Av-priority at f8 - f9 is a good starting point. Watch the shutter speed and adjust the ISO number accordingly if the speed falls below [ 1 / focal length x 1,6 ].

Phil / EDDL

[Edited 2006-07-31 10:23:11]

User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 19 hours ago) and read 2604 times:

Quoting MauriceB (Thread starter):
know that the best way to shoot planes is with the AV mode,

Who told you that? And why do you believe it?

Read this thread: "Should I use a high aperture or a big shutter speed"?



Nikon D700, Nikkor 80-400, Fuji X Pro 1, Fujinon 35 f/1.4, Fujinon 18 f/2
User currently offlineFlyfisher1976 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 804 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 13 hours ago) and read 2572 times:

Quoting Viv (Reply 9):
Read this thread: "Should I use a high aperture or a big shutter speed"?

So you can get really confused...


User currently offlineFlyingZacko From Germany, joined May 2005, 583 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 7 hours ago) and read 2555 times:

Quoting EDDL (Reply 8):
[ 1 / focal length x 1,6 ].

Should you take the crop factor in account when going by this rule?

Cheers,
Sebastian



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User currently offlineEDDL From Germany, joined Dec 2002, 738 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 7 hours ago) and read 2554 times:

Quoting FlyingZacko (Reply 11):
Should you take the crop factor in account when going by this rule?

There are endless discussions on the topic ... IMHO you should do that.


User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 28
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 7 hours ago) and read 2545 times:

Quoting Flyfisher1976 (Reply 10):
So you can get really confused...

Here we go again. Don't measure people's intelligence by your own.

Of course, there is no antidote to invincible ignorance.



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User currently offlineMauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2490 posts, RR: 25
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 5 hours ago) and read 2526 times:

Quote:
Here we go again. Don't measure people's intelligence by your own.

Of course, there is no antidote to invincible ignorance

Its not that i ain't intelligent, but im just not so good with photography anymore  Wink


User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9956 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2441 times:

Hi Maurice,

Nice to you taking photos again. I also have the EOS350D and I use the Av-mode, f/8 (depending on light conditions) and the AI Servo mode.

How I wish to go to AMS... lucky you! Big grin

A388


User currently offlineMauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2490 posts, RR: 25
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2383 times:

Quote:
Hi Maurice,

Nice to you taking photos again. I also have the EOS350D and I use the Av-mode, f/8 (depending on light conditions) and the AI Servo mode.

How I wish to go to AMS... lucky you!

A388

Ty,

How i wish to go to the Antillen... Oh wait! i go in 8 day's Big grin


User currently offlineFlyfisher1976 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 804 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2371 times:

Quoting Viv (Reply 13):
Don't measure people's intelligence by your own.

The ability to operate a camera is not a good indication of one's intelligence. Don't over complicate things. Are you planning on becoming a professional photographer, or is this just a hobby? Get out there, experiment and read through these forums. You'll get the hang of it.


User currently offlineMauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2490 posts, RR: 25
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2353 times:

Quote:
The ability to operate a camera is not a good indication of one's intelligence. Don't over complicate things. Are you planning on becoming a professional photographer, or is this just a hobby? Get out there, experiment and read through these forums. You'll get the hang of it.

Well , you can check out under the name DutchAviation on a.net, and you will see i did know how to do it (not that good but hey, they made it  Wink ) but 1,5 year is just very long, and i need that litle push in the beginning to get the hang of it again! Because of the weather i haven't been to AMS yet since i got my 350D, but i will go as soon as it get's better.

Anyway i will try out a bit, but do you guy's advise me to go on the Automatic setting in the beginning? It might easy things up then right?

Here a link to my A.net photo's :

http://www.airliners.net/search/phot...=DutchAviation&distinct_entry=true


User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 28
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2348 times:

Quoting MauriceB (Reply 18):
but do you guy's advise me to go on the Automatic setting in the beginning?

I would not advise that - the auto setting will give 'average' results in 'average' light.

Read this thread, which simplifies the whole business of shutter speed and aperture. It will save you a LOT of trial and error.

Should I Use A High Aperture Or A Big Shutter Spee (by Viv Jul 26 2006 in Aviation Photography)



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User currently offlineFlyfisher1976 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 804 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2322 times:

Quoting MauriceB (Reply 18):
Anyway i will try out a bit, but do you guy's advise me to go on the Automatic setting in the beginning?

Yeah, get out there and shoot! I would start in AV mode around F7-9 ISO100 and let the camera find the shutter speed for you. Start out on a good weather day with the sun to your back. Good luck!


User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9956 posts, RR: 15
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2311 times:

Nice thread from Viv! Viv explains the terms in a good, easy to read way.

A388  Smile


User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 28
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2303 times:

Quoting Flyfisher1976 (Reply 17):
The ability to operate a camera is not a good indication of one's intelligence

Agreed, but the ability to understand written instructions and to learn from them is. That is what I said.



Nikon D700, Nikkor 80-400, Fuji X Pro 1, Fujinon 35 f/1.4, Fujinon 18 f/2
User currently offlineAcontador From Chile, joined Jul 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 30
Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2288 times:
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Hi ViV!

Really good thread for us beginners, cannot wait for the continuation (ISO, WB, etc.)! Just ignore non-constructive comments  covereyes  !

I also just recently bought a 350, and continue playing around to get used to it. Only thing I would say is that just "go AV with f8" doesn't really help too much. At least at the beginning I would start with Viv's thread, and then would go out and shot many pictures of same object with all different settings (I did it with a water fountain) to see the results. Then, I would move to an airport and try first AV (ISO 100, Servo, Auto WB, JPG large fine, Parameters set at 0 but sharpness at +1) with f8 on a medium light day (sunny with clouds) and see resulting speed - if planes are moving (i.e. flying), then below 1/200 I could not get decent results. If there is less light (overcast), then you need to go down on f (up on aperture) to as much as needed to keep speed at your target. If you are at lowest possible f and speed goes below your target, it's time to go home and let the pro's take pictures under such light! And if light is good (bright sunny day), you can try going up with f to maybe 12, but then I would watch speed since you can use this light for going to highest speeds. OK?  sun 

As somebody already said, that's only my  twocents  !



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User currently offlineViv From Ireland, joined May 2005, 3142 posts, RR: 28
Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2284 times:

Quoting Acontador (Reply 23):
Really good thread for us beginners, cannot wait for the continuation (ISO, WB, etc.)!

Thank you kind Sir.

Your approach is basically what I did when I was learning: (a) know the theory (b) shoot a lot of shots, changing one variable at a time, and see what works.



Nikon D700, Nikkor 80-400, Fuji X Pro 1, Fujinon 35 f/1.4, Fujinon 18 f/2
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