LHRSIMON From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2002, 1342 posts, RR: 25 Posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3348 times:
"A major terrorist plot to blow up planes in mid-flight has been disrupted by police, Scotland Yard says.
It is thought the plan was to detonate explosive devices smuggled on board aircraft in hand luggage. "During the night, police arrested a number of people in London after a counter-terrorist operation they said had lasted several months. Police believe the attacks would have been particularly targeted at flights from the UK to the US.The Department for Transport said security at all UK airports has been increased.Passengers on all flights will not be allowed to take any hand luggage on to any flights in the UK.Only the barest essentials - including passports and wallets - will be allowed to be carried on board in transparent plastic bags. "
Well due to the above LHR is at a complete standstill. Anyone thinking todays a good day to come to LHR to take a few photo should very much think again..... Be sensible out there !!!!
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ThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2021 posts, RR: 52 Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3337 times:
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Quoting LHRSIMON (Thread starter): Passengers on all flights will not be allowed to take any hand luggage on to any flights in the UK.Only the barest essentials - including passports and wallets - will be allowed to be carried on board in transparent plastic bags.
So much as to winning the war on terror!
How far are we really ready to go to create the illusion of 100% security!?
Scottieprecord From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1363 posts, RR: 12 Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3285 times:
With US terror levels at Red/Orange... I have a feelings it's not good to go spotting anywhere in the US as well. I was planning on catching some early morning departures out of SAT in about an hour, but there's no way I'd head out there now.
I'm expecting a significant drop in uploads for at least the next week...
LHRSIMON From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2002, 1342 posts, RR: 25 Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3181 times:
I cannot see Myrtle being a problem as its one of the very few spots thats not on privite land (as its a public park) . Anything on the perimiter or centre area will be another story though !!!
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Eksath From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1140 posts, RR: 27 Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3161 times:
Look...if security level is "critical" why would you want to go further contribute to the number of op sec variables by being the lone cameraman on the street under the flightpath during this period? take a break and go about spotting when things settle down. There is no reason to test the authorities and -frankly- they will win everytime.
If they are so security concious as to not allow carry on luggage, they must have one hell of a just cause. I just find the hassle of this scenerio not worth the shots i could generate from a location that has been quite well overfished in the database.
LGW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3151 times:
I say we all change our life because of a few cowards who want to cause mass injury and death to civilised Western nations and their citizens; of course not, yes it may be seen as an unwanted distraction for the authorities to have photographers/spotters at airports but life must go on, be sensible, don't go climbing trees in obscure areas or get shirty if the authorities question you or request you move on.
We are can be an asset to the authorities, being eyes and ears, afterall there are signs at BAA airports asking enthusiasts to be the eyes and ears and report anything unusual to the authorities.
I am sure the authroties would ideally prefer we all stay away from airports but my view is that as long as you stay in main, obvious areas and do as requested by the authorities there shouldn't be a big issue.
ThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2021 posts, RR: 52 Reply 9, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3132 times:
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Quoting LGW (Reply 8): I say we all change our life because of a few cowards who want to cause mass injury and death to civilised Western nations and their citizens; of course not, yes it may be seen as an unwanted distraction for the authorities to have photographers/spotters at airports but life must go on, be sensible, don't go climbing trees in obscure areas or get shirty if the authorities question you or request you move on.
We are can be an asset to the authorities, being eyes and ears, afterall there are signs at BAA airports asking enthusiasts to be the eyes and ears and report anything unusual to the authorities.
I am sure the authroties would ideally prefer we all stay away from airports but my view is that as long as you stay in main, obvious areas and do as requested by the authorities there shouldn't be a big issue.
LHRman From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 398 posts, RR: 6 Reply 10, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3132 times:
I phoned my local SEN to check if its ok to be around the airport getting pic's in the current situation and they said it was fine. Looks good for me, maybe not for my camera equipment on my visit to Greece a week on Friday.
Lasham From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 225 posts, RR: 19 Reply 13, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3045 times:
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And just to make things worse they are about to put gates in at the white huts on 27R. So no way of parking for a quick 27R ARR shot! Shame as have used this spot for years (BA Tridents by the shed load)
But not one to give up just need to go and buy a bike!
DC10Tim From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1405 posts, RR: 16 Reply 18, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2981 times:
I don't see any reason for doing anything differently to any other day. Photographing aircraft is NOT a crime and I'm damned if I am going to let Islamic crackpots alter my way of life.
To busy working at the min to get to the airport anyway
Airplanepics From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2725 posts, RR: 45 Reply 20, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2964 times:
Quoting DC10Tim (Reply 18): I don't see any reason for doing anything differently to any other day. Photographing aircraft is NOT a crime and I'm damned if I am going to let Islamic crackpots alter my way of life.
The way I see it is just stay away for a few days. The police already have enough on there plate at the moment without moving on photographers.
We all know it's not a crime, but if they've been told to move people along who are loitering near the airport, then just co-operate.
I know at my place of work today, we had heightened security everywhere. We all had to leave mobile phones, key's with electronic fob's. Also, no bag's of any sort are permitted airside. In my department, we also had 2 Armed Police at all times guarding the place and looking after inbound / outbound passengers.
Just give it a few days, maybe a week, then we should be ok.
DC10Tim From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1405 posts, RR: 16 Reply 21, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2954 times:
Quoting Airplanepics (Reply 20): We all know it's not a crime, but if they've been told to move people along who are loitering near the airport, then just co-operate.
Why if I'm just minding my own business? That is letting them win.
I can't help but feel that a lot of this heightened security (not at airports, but elsewhere) is a nonsense. I saw the most futile sight of my whole life tonight walking through Sheffield train station, where there were literally hundreds of staff checking everyone had a ticket before letting them on the platform. Pointless.
I'm sorry but days like today when everyone gets a little overexcited frustrate me. Well done to the Police and MI5 for foiling the attack though.
Airplanepics From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2725 posts, RR: 45 Reply 22, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2949 times:
Quoting DC10Tim (Reply 21): Why if I'm just minding my own business? That is letting them win.
I can't help but feel that a lot of this heightened security (not at airports, but elsewhere) is a nonsense. I saw the most futile sight of my whole life tonight walking through Sheffield train station, where there were literally hundreds of staff checking everyone had a ticket before letting them on the platform. Pointless.
I'm sorry but days like today when everyone gets a little overexcited frustrate me. Well done to the Police and MI5 for foiling the attack though.
But the thing is Tim, the element of risk is still there. The moment someone let's there guard down - they could attack.
We're not letting them win, all I'm saying is co-operate for a few days. Then hopefully, thing's will blow over.
Afterall, today wasn't a normal security alert, we're talking a huge risk.
NIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 23, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2947 times:
Quoting ThierryD (Reply 1): So much as to winning the war on terror!
Did you read? The plot was foiled so someone did something right and we did happen to win this battle.
Quoting ThierryD (Reply 1): How far are we really ready to go to create the illusion of 100% security!?
Nobody believes that. Anyone with half a brain knows there is no such thing. There are many people working hard to keep us as safe as we can be. Thankfully this plot was prevented from being successful.
Quoting DC10Tim (Reply 21): Why if I'm just minding my own business? That is letting them win
If the wx is nice I am going shooting at JFK this Sunday afternoon. I refuse to change my plans and life around for these people. That is what they want. I am not going to oblige them.
ThierryD From Luxembourg, joined Dec 2005, 2021 posts, RR: 52 Reply 24, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2902 times:
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Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 23): Quoting ThierryD (Reply 1):
So much as to winning the war on terror!
Did you read? The plot was foiled so someone did something right and we did happen to win this battle.
DID YOU read? My statement was given on the quote that no handluggage was permitted on UK flights anymore; even if this is just a temporary measure it still takes away some more freedom from the air traveller and thus constitutes a win for the terrorists.
Thierry
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25 Cosec59: The security forces are saying the plot has been disrupted not foiled. Which should be a concern to us all
26 NIKV69: I did read. Hey we are at war here buddy. We have to do certain things in crucial times to stop these maniacs. It's not the end of the world if you c
27 Airplanepics: Did you read? The risk is still there, the plot hasn't been foiled at all.
29 DC10Tim: Simon, the threat remains and will remain for decades, but what are we to do? The only effect on people's lives as a result of the IRA, I remember fr
30 Cosec59: I disagree. The likelyhood is that that person with the camera is an aviation enthuisiast (planespotter) so therefore will be keeping an eye out for
31 DC10Tim: Sorry - the point I was making is that aircraft are certainly no less secure by an enthusiast being there.
32 Scbriml: I agree wholeheartedly. However... Absolutely right! Why cause a headache for the police because someone (with the best intentions) reports a "terror
33 Airplanepics: Yes, we all know that. I know that, hell - I'll be at LHR tomorrow if I could....but I'm just going to wait a few days, wait and see what the next fe
35 Chris78cpr: Join the club! Im flying LHR-LAX-MEL tommorrow on AA/QF and i had to go out and buy two Peli cases to put my kit in. Frigging expensive and its just
36 ThierryD: Nobody is doing any propaganda here but everytime we give up some of our freedom to be more "secure" from any terrorists they win a battle. And yes w
37 Bezoar: I posted a new thread on this, but I guess I could have put it here: My son is flying today from Jacksonville, FL to Anchorage, and was not allowed ta
38 DC10Tim: And what if there is no change and the nation is still on "critical" alert in a weeks time, a months time or a year? Crikey, when the IRA were in ful
39 Airplanepics: What I'm saying is, if you got spotted around the perimeter fence of LHR, you'll most probably get moved on - just for the next few days. You have no
40 LHRSIMON: It's pretty simple. Any spots that are 50/50 chance of being move on (Perimiter Road for example) will be a case of 100% moved on within a small amoun
41 TS: Says who? The UK is a free country, & I don't see a reason why spotters shouldn't go as always to the airport. What can happen if people spot there?
42 Airplanepics: The UK may be a free country, but the perimeter fence and road around the fence is property of BAA, they can (and do) move you on whenever they want.
43 DC10Tim: This further highlights why the situation is a little ridiculous. Obviously under the LHR byelaw, the police are going to be keen with anyone on "the
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