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User currently offlineSkidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 55
Posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2125 times:

In view of the recent events in the UK, it would appear that photographers will not be able to carry on their camera gear. Hopefully this won't become a regular thing, but if it does it will be de-rigour to have a decent, hard-shell camera case to protect our hard earned investment from the ministrations of baggage handlers and the like.

Does anyone have any preferences, recommendations or definate "must haves"?

I've just ordered a Pelican for an exorbitant amount. Should I charge it to Al Qaida? Big grin

Andy  old 


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User currently offlineLGW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2122 times:

Andy,

Good question and I too would be interested to see what people suggest, I don't want to spend a great deal if possible but if the recent hand baggage rules implimented today last long then it will be a necessary evil.

Ben


User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9633 posts, RR: 68
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2117 times:
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Nothing like a shiny new Pelican case to scream "steal me."

If I was going somewhere, and I needed my kit, I would ship it. Fed Ex or UPS, something like that.


User currently offlineSkidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 55
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2109 times:

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 2):
Nothing like a shiny new Pelican case to scream "steal me."

If I was going somewhere, and I needed my kit, I would ship it. Fed Ex or UPS, something like that.

Not always the best option, especially if you are going for a day or weekend trip.

And they won't stay shiny and new for long - especially after baggage handlers have had their wicked way!!! Big grin

But right now, what other option have you?

Andy  old 



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User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9633 posts, RR: 68
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2108 times:
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Well, I guess it comes down to how much risk you are willing to take. If I was going on holiday I would pack a point and shoot, I don't trust the baggage handlers with my gear.

User currently offlineChris78cpr From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 2820 posts, RR: 50
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2066 times:

I am travelling LHR-LAX-MEL tommorrow and planned on taking my extensive camera kit and laptop, etc.

So today i went out and spent a good few hundred quid on buying some calumet hard shell cases for my gear. I have one that is te equivalent to the peli 1620 and i also have a 1510 equivalent on order. For the sake of £400-£500 i would rather have piece of mind that my gear is going to be safe. The cases have 8 lock points on them so i an put 8 locks on it and i can have it GPS tagged. Im happy to check my gear in now and it is something i probably will do more in future.

Chris



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User currently offlineCosec59 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2063 times:

Quoting Chris78cpr (Reply 5):
The cases have 8 lock points on them so i an put 8 locks on it

I was under the impression tha the US homeland security were likely to force open any cases that were locked to check them.

Quoting Chris78cpr (Reply 5):
Im happy to check my gear in now

Well good luck, because I'm not convinced


User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2061 times:

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 4):
Well, I guess it comes down to how much risk you are willing to take. If I was going on holiday I would pack a point and shoot, I don't trust the baggage handlers with my gear.

But I sold my p&s to buy my Dslr.  hissyfit 


User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9633 posts, RR: 68
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2056 times:
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well, there are such things as TSA approved locks.

http://cell-phone-accessories-wholes...p?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=17860

But, my point is this. If you see a hard shell camera case, what do you think is in it? Dirty underwear with the bacon strip up? Nope, camera gear. Obviously NICE camera gear as the cases are $$$$. I wouldn't worry so much about the case being opened, as the whole case going missing.

Good luck.

[Edited 2006-08-10 19:12:41]

User currently offlineAKE0404AR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2535 posts, RR: 45
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2053 times:

Quoting Cosec59 (Reply 6):
I was under the impression tha the US homeland security were likely to force open any cases that were locked to check them.

that is correct, .......at least the last time I travelled by air I was told it could happen!


User currently offlineChris78cpr From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 2820 posts, RR: 50
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2040 times:

I have 8 TSA approved locks that they can open with their master key.

My gear is insured and a peli case that is locked is classed as an acceptable form of securings ones gear. Therefore if any theft should occur i am fully covered.

To be honest im quite happy not to have to lug a heavy lowepro with 2-3 bodies/6 lenses/2 flashes etc about with me.

I mean what do you think CNN/BBC and all the big news agencies do with cameras?

What about advertyising photographers going to Paphiti to shoot calenders and adverts with £100,000 worth of lighting kit do? They check it in Peli's.

It is going to be the way forward soon or you wont travel with your equipment. FACT.

Chris



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User currently offlineCosec59 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2035 times:

Quoting Chris78cpr (Reply 10):
My gear is insured

Again it's just hearsay, but a few of my friends in insurance say that the insurance companies won't cover possessions that have been tampered with.

Quoting Chris78cpr (Reply 10):
It is going to be the way forward soon or you wont travel with your equipment. FACT.

Yup. That's one of the things that worries me at the moment


User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9633 posts, RR: 68
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2031 times:
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You make good points, however you are talking about professionals. Your average enthusiast isn't going to be able to shrug their shoulders if they get ripped off.

I would imagine if the government tried to ban, as an example, laptops, there would be a strong backlash. Of course they have done it in the U.K., so lets see how that goes.


User currently offlineCosec59 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2029 times:

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 12):
Of course they have done it in the U.K.,

Have they?
It seems most things have been banned from cabin luggage.


User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2013 times:

Quoting Chris78cpr (Reply 10):
I mean what do you think CNN/BBC and all the big news agencies do with cameras?

I assume they are covered by their employers who pay for the gear if it's lost or broken and they replace stuff like that under expenses. That's a bit different from the amateur or semi-pro.


User currently offlineSkidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 55
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days ago) and read 1991 times:

If you insure your gear separately on your household insurance, and it's policy to have it put in the hold, then I think you;ll find it's covered

Andy  old 



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User currently offlineChris78cpr From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 2820 posts, RR: 50
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days ago) and read 1984 times:

Quoting Cosec59 (Reply 11):
Again it's just hearsay, but a few of my friends in insurance say that the insurance companies won't cover possessions that have been tampered with.

My insurance company has said they will honor my gear if it's in a locked peli case.

Quoting Cosec59 (Reply 11):
Yup. That's one of the things that worries me at the moment

It does SUCK! I hate it but i guess i cant do anything about it.

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 12):
You make good points, however you are talking about professionals. Your average enthusiast isn't going to be able to shrug their shoulders if they get ripped off.

I would imagine if the government tried to ban, as an example, laptops, there would be a strong backlash. Of course they have done it in the U.K., so lets see how that goes.

The average enthusiast should also have camera equipment insurance.

They have not banned laptops in the UK?

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 14):
assume they are covered by their employers who pay for the gear if it's lost or broken and they replace stuff like that under expenses. That's a bit different from the amateur or semi-pro.

Yes i understand that, but any self respecting amateur should have insurance to cover their investment, it's just sensible practice to do.

I mean when you leave on holiday do you go without travel insurance? Do you not have life insurance? It's just sensible to insure valuable things.

Chris



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User currently offlineCosec59 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days ago) and read 1984 times:

Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 15):
then I think you;ll find it's covered

I'm not sure on that Andy. I believe the US homeland security's policy to open locked cases has given the insurance companies a "get out clause"


User currently offlineCosec59 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days ago) and read 1981 times:

Quoting Chris78cpr (Reply 16):
My insurance company has said they will honor my gear if it's in a locked peli case.

Having worked in insurance for many years I would not be happy unless I had that in writing


User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9633 posts, RR: 68
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days ago) and read 1972 times:
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the UK has banned everything except of your wallet and tampons, at least for now.

User currently offlineSkidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 55
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1954 times:

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 19):
tampons

Thats quite frightening Big grin

Phil, if you use the TSA locks then you should be ok. As someone else has said, if this is ongoing then insurance companies will have to adopt a different stance, the downside being increased premiums. However, after losing a lens a couple of years ago and getting a replacement through the insurer, I did discuss with the rep who interviewed me for the loss (it cost a bit!) about carriage etc. her advice was as I have said, put it on your household policy but specify the value and detail it.

Hopefully things won't come to this, but I am getting a hard case anyway. With airtravel being the best way to leave the island, especially for a day's spotting or weekend trip, any future occurences won't leave me stuck and putting a soft bag into the hold.

And, as Chris has said, even amateur photographers should have their equipment insured separately. Thats a lot of money to be left soley to a travel insurance! Whether it goes in the hold or no!

Andy  old 



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User currently offlineJumboJim747 From Australia, joined Oct 2004, 2464 posts, RR: 44
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1949 times:

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 19):
the UK has banned everything except of your wallet and tampons, at least for now.

lol lets do away with overhead bins then.
Cheers



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User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1947 times:

Quoting JumboJim747 (Reply 21):
lets do away with overhead bins then

That's on Ryanair's to do list.
 rotfl   rotfl 


User currently offlineChris78cpr From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 2820 posts, RR: 50
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1936 times:

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 19):
the UK has banned everything except of your wallet and tampons, at least for now

Yes they have for now, but it is apparently expected that by mid week nxt week normal carry on will be permitted however it is likely the U|K will adopt the same stance on liquids and products like the |US has.

Chris



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User currently offlineAirplanepics From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2734 posts, RR: 40
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1926 times:

Quoting Chris78cpr (Reply 23):
Yes they have for now, but it is apparently expected that by mid week nxt week normal carry on will be permitted however it is likely the U|K will adopt the same stance on liquids and products like the |US has.

You cannot take any liquids on-board any aircraft departing from any airport in the UK...



Simon - London-Aviation.com
25 Chris78cpr : No shit... If you read what i wrote then you will see that i meant when they allow carry on again, they will still not allow liquids, like the US has
26 UA935 : They have been checking liquid carry on in China for years. One bottle per person and it must be opened and checked by security at the checkpoint. Fu
27 Post contains images Skidmarks : I've just been looking at Photographic Equipment insurance on the net and found one called "Photoguard". I rang their enquiry line to ascertain the co
28 Post contains images Javibi : Only for UK residents Does anyone know of a reliable company that cover us non-subdits of Her Majesty? j
29 Post contains images LHRSIMON : I have been to America 4 times. And at least 3 times security have broken the locks to my cases. If they want to open something they do and more often
30 Post contains images Scbriml : But they leave a nice card inside your case telling you what they've done! You need to make sure your cases have TSA approved locks. If you use somet
31 Post contains images Skidmarks : Get a set of TSA padlocks. They aren't supposed to break the locks then. Although they did when I transited DTW in April - tossers! AND they left the
32 Chris78cpr : It dont mean shit. I just got to LAX and they have broken all 8 of my TSA approaved locks and forced the peli open as the tossers dont know how to us
33 Post contains images Skidmarks : Ihave a feeling that the TSA do just what they want to and sod the passenger. Well, all you can do is take the best precautions you can and hope for
34 Scbriml : I think he means the TSA did. I doubt he would have got all that resolved by Peli in one transit at LAX.
35 UA935 : At least your case wasn't stolen Chris. It is all well and good to immediatley implement a no hand baggae policy but no one who makes this deision see
36 Post contains links Clickhappy : This just in - UK insurers won't cover stuff in the hold http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2309322,00.html
37 TransIsland : They're supposed to, yet I've never seen this card - but I know some perv's been sniffing my undies...
38 Post contains images Skidmarks : Not totally true. As I stated above, Photoguard will cover the loss provided you can prove it was checked in as hold baggage. However, I think we all
39 Kazzie : Chris, When you check-in ask frp the bag to go to special Item (if LHR has it) Also ask for Fragile stickers etc..Ill be honest, I doubt loaders have
40 Airplanepics : Yes, but that's going to make it more obvious that it's something valuable. From past experiance, whenever it has "Fragile" on, the loads just smash
41 Post contains images Scbriml : Bull, rag, red.
42 Post contains images Maiznblu_757 : Heres a suggestion that will help everyone... Just place a Nikon sticker on all of your equipment cases. Who in there right mind would want to steal i
43 Post contains images Spartan13 : Good stuff Chad.[Edited 2006-08-13 09:05:55]
44 Post contains images Skidmarks : That is the most inflamatory and insulting post I've ever seen in the forum yet!! You sir, are a bounder and a cad and shall be whipped mecilessly wi
45 Post contains images Chris78cpr : Yeah it was the TSA that gave me the cheque. As soon as i saw what they had done i went to the front of the customs place and demanded to see the hea
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