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AussieAviator From Australia, joined Jul 2006, 78 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 9 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2511 times:

... to be submitted for inclusion on A.Net ?

I don't want to waste the screeners time by submitting something below par.

It is one of my first attempts.

I'm thinking the port tail plane is a little too dark and merges in with the pine trees in the background - but really, I have no idea ! Smile

All comments appreciated.

Taken with a Panasonic DMC-FZ30 (ISO 100, F5.4, 1/640)

[Edited 2006-08-16 14:09:09]

Graham Slingsby

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JumboJim747 From Australia, joined Oct 2004, 2462 posts, RR: 50
Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2504 times:

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I cant comment on the Quality but the shot looks unlevel and cropped too far .
Try cropping a little tighter and level the shot .
Not a bad first attempt but it needs work.
Cheers

On a wing and a prayer

AussieAviator From Australia, joined Jul 2006, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 9 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2490 times:

Quoting JumboJim747 (Reply 1):
I cant comment on the Quality but the shot looks unlevel and cropped too far .
Try cropping a little tighter and level the shot .
Not a bad first attempt but it needs work.

Thanks Alan. I appreciate your assessment and kind comment. I've tried to alter the image as you have suggested in Photoshop CS2.

The result is below:

Big version: Width: 844 Height: 405 File size: 409kb

Graham Slingsby

Woody001 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 529 posts, RR: 25
Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2476 times:

Graham,

You need to keep the aspect ratio to something like 3:2.
Within Photoshop set the crop tool to be 3 x 2 in the boxes, but don't enter a dpi value.

Best of luck,
Ian.

If I could just get the afterburner working...

Azza40 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 1052 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (6 years 9 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2458 times:

Try and get rid of a few minor dust spots above the plane. Or am i the only one who can see them?

Aaron swirl

Not been on here for a good 2/3 years!

UnattendedBag From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2240 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (6 years 9 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2377 times:

unfortunatly, I don't think it can be saved.

Slower traffic, keep right

Eadster From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2214 posts, RR: 16
Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2332 times:

I don't think its salvagable either (for here anyway). But a good attempt and with a great aircraft.

Just out of interest, where was that GAM beast taken?

Lanas From Argentina, joined Aug 2006, 977 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2319 times:

The second edit is still a little unlevelled and has issues regarding the aspect ratio, as Ian said earlier on the thread. I would try from scratch, but I don´t think it can be saved either. Keep posting anyway! Don´t be discouraged, at the beginning it might be hard work to get your first shot accepted.

Cheers,

Lanas.-

"Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens." J.R.R. Tolkien

AussieAviator From Australia, joined Jul 2006, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 9 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2314 times:

Quoting Eadster (Reply 6):
I don't think its salvagable either (for here anyway). But a good attempt and with a great aircraft.

Just out of interest, where was that GAM beast taken?

Thanks for the comments gentlemen.

The 'dust spots' are actually a flock of birds spooked by the immediate departure of a Cessna 310 (out of shot) from RWY 23.

The GAM beast was photographed last week at Corowa airport. The owner flies the aircraft to Corowa once a week, where he has certain business interests in the area. The aircraft is sheltered in a purpose built hangar on the airport.

This is my attempt at trying to salvage the image using 3 x 2 cropping and unsharp mask - with birds (dust spots) in the background.

And again ... levelled with flock of birds removed using clone tool.

Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 683 File size: 723kb

[Edited 2006-08-17 01:45:15]

Graham Slingsby

Lanas From Argentina, joined Aug 2006, 977 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (6 years 9 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2311 times:

Much better! Congrats!
Still unlevelled in my opinion. Try some CCW rotation.

Regards,

Lanas.-

"Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens." J.R.R. Tolkien

AussieAviator From Australia, joined Jul 2006, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 9 months 6 days ago) and read 2293 times:

For some really annoying reason, I can't seem to edit my post above to re-insert the image which now shows the dreaded red 'X' and 'dead' link. Can anyone tell me why you can't edit your own post? I was able to do it on one occasion and now it won't allow me to do it again! mad

Here is the image, levelled with flock of birds removed using clone tool.

Levelled and flock of birds removed

Graham Slingsby

Airplanepics From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2725 posts, RR: 46
Reply 11, posted (6 years 9 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2251 times:

Quoting AussieAviator (Reply 10):

Here is the image, levelled with flock of birds removed using clone tool.

And you've just admitted that? I wouldn't even bother uploading this image now... Yeah sure

Simon - London-Aviation.com

AussieAviator From Australia, joined Jul 2006, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 9 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2247 times:

Quoting Airplanepics (Reply 11):
And you've just admitted that?

I guess the screeners would note alterations anyway?

Why would it pose such a problem, when A.net provide a link for improving images - which give detailed instructions on 'levelling' and 'cloning' techniques using Photo Elements - specifically for uploads to this very website?

If they don't want people to use these procedures, why provide the link? Sounds kind of weird to me.

Graham Slingsby

Azza40 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 1052 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (6 years 9 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2242 times:

The cloning is nearly as bad as mine as well tongue

Aaron

Not been on here for a good 2/3 years!

Airplanepics From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2725 posts, RR: 46
Reply 14, posted (6 years 9 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2242 times:

Quoting Azza40 (Reply 13):
The cloning is nearly as bad as mine as well

No it's not, that's about 1000x better than your photo. Bird's are natural, he couldn't help them being there - lamp-posts aren't, you knew they were there.

Simon - London-Aviation.com

Azza40 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 1052 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (6 years 9 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2226 times:

Quoting Airplanepics (Reply 14):
No it's not, that's about 1000x better than your photo. Bird's are natural, he couldn't help them being there - lamp-posts aren't, you knew they were there.

But the goverment put the lamposts there not me Wink

so i could not do anything about them being there.

Aaron swirl

Not been on here for a good 2/3 years!

Lanas From Argentina, joined Aug 2006, 977 posts, RR: 15
Reply 16, posted (6 years 9 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2186 times:

Mmmm be careful with the cloning. It´s not illegal but you must use it accurately. You´ve left two light blue spots that are easy to see.
Try not removing the birds. The ones on the far right might be the most suitable for cloning, but if I were you I´d leave them all.
Regards,

Lanas.-

"Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens." J.R.R. Tolkien

AussieAviator From Australia, joined Jul 2006, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 9 months 5 days ago) and read 2157 times:

Quoting Lanas (Reply 16):
Mmmm be careful with the cloning. It´s not illegal but you must use it accurately. You´ve left two light blue spots that are easy to see.
Try not removing the birds. The ones on the far right might be the most suitable for cloning, but if I were you I´d leave them all.
Regards,

Lanas.-

Thanks Lanas,

I think you might be right. I'm not big into cloning images - I'd rather submit something that is natural and does not require extensive image manipulation. Apart from levelling and some sharpening (if absolutely necessary) - I'd rather leave the images alone.

I just need to think a bit more and be conscious of my situational awareness when taking photographs.

Lanas, I note you live in Argentina ? Is it at all possible to obtain some images of Argentinian Air Force and Navy (Armada) aircraft? In particular - the Mirage III ? I love Argentinian military aircraft Smile

Cheers mate

Graham Slingsby

JeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 53
Reply 18, posted (6 years 9 months 5 days ago) and read 2153 times:

Quoting AussieAviator (Reply 10):
Can anyone tell me why you can't edit your own post?

Too much time has passed. Your limited.

AussieAviator From Australia, joined Jul 2006, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 9 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2079 times:

Quoting JeffM (Reply 18):
Too much time has passed. Your limited.

Thanks, I should have read the intro which explains this. Sorry to have wasted any ones time.

Graham Slingsby

AussieAviator From Australia, joined Jul 2006, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 9 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2075 times:

It's a crap image (I know this now) ... but thanks eveyone for your valuable input !

I've learnt a lot over the last few days from your comments.

[Edited 2006-08-18 19:45:32]

Graham Slingsby

Lanas From Argentina, joined Aug 2006, 977 posts, RR: 15
Reply 21, posted (6 years 9 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2036 times:

Quoting AussieAviator (Reply 17):
Lanas, I note you live in Argentina ? Is it at all possible to obtain some images of Argentinian Air Force and Navy (Armada) aircraft? In particular - the Mirage III ? I love Argentinian military aircraft

Yes, I live in Argentina. There must be some pics on this db. I haven´t checked, really. Have you? If not I can get you some from an Argentine aviation site. Just let me know.

Cheers!
Lanas.-

"Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens." J.R.R. Tolkien

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