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One More Question ... I Need Both Of These Images  
User currently offlineAussieAviator From Australia, joined Jul 2006, 78 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4311 times:

... critiqued if possible ?

Are either suitable for submission to A.net screeners?

Does the F/A-18A demonstrate too much noise? It was taken with an old 3.2MP Nikon Coolpix 3700, over 12 months ago.

I'm only a beginner, but think I'm starting to grasp the very basics of what's required in terms of image presentation for this website.

All help gleefully accepted ! Thanks in advance.

IMAGES:

Lloyd Helicopters S-76A - on SAR contract to the RAAF
(Panasonic DMC FZ-30)

Big version: Width: 1100 Height: 668 File size: 884kb



RAAF F/A-18A in Anniversary colours - Avalon Airshow 2005
(Nikon Coolpix 3700)



[Edited 2006-08-17 06:41:16]


Graham Slingsby
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User currently offlineJumboJim747 From Australia, joined Oct 2004, 2464 posts, RR: 44
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4298 times:
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Graham
The helicopter pic is too small and very hard to give any feedback on it.
The FA18 looks good but not sure if it would get a motiv rejection due to the crop and the missile blocking most of the aircraft.
Nice shot would love to get some screeners input on it.
Cheers



On a wing and a prayer
User currently offlineAussieAviator From Australia, joined Jul 2006, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4295 times:

Quoting JumboJim747 (Reply 1):
The helicopter pic is too small and very hard to give any feedback on it.

Sorry mate ... my mistake - incorrect upload.

I have now included the 1024 resolution image.

Let me know what you think?

Yes, I tend to agree with your comments re: the F/A-18. This is one hell of a learning experience !  Smile



Graham Slingsby
User currently offlineJumboJim747 From Australia, joined Oct 2004, 2464 posts, RR: 44
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4288 times:
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Quoting AussieAviator (Reply 2):
This is one hell of a learning experience !

But when the learning is over and some say it never is over you will start to enjoy the fruits of the hobby and what it can bring.
I just got my first ever Mag cover and its made it all worth while.
The helicopter is now visible and to me looks good but i cant comment on quality as I'm at work on a very bad monitor.
But looks centered and level.
Keep it up your doing well .
Cheers



On a wing and a prayer
User currently offlineEadster From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2216 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4273 times:

The helecopter, I feel will still get a quality rejection. Looking at it here I'd say its right on the borderline and with the standards of today, being right on the borderline is not going to be enough. I also thing that parts of the white are slighlty too bright.

How big is the original? If you want me to have a look at it for you, let me know I'd be glad too. The hornet, might not be worth the worry as suggested, but depending on the state of the original chopper it might be ok.

Anyway, I personally think that you are close with the chopper.

Martin


User currently offlineAussieAviator From Australia, joined Jul 2006, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4268 times:

Quoting Eadster (Reply 4):
How big is the original? If you want me to have a look at it for you, let me know I'd be glad too.

Hi there Martin and thankyou for your kind words of encouragement.

The image of the S-76A is - 3264 x 2448 (72dpi).

It would be most helpful if you would take a look at it. Thankyou.
What would be the best method to send it to you?

I agree with all comments relating to the F/A-18.

Cheers,

Big version: Width: 210 Height: 280 File size: 81kb


Graham Slingsby



Graham Slingsby
User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4772 posts, RR: 26
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4224 times:
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The helicopter shot has a white line along the border on the left side.

[Edited 2006-08-17 09:53:43]


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User currently offlineAussieAviator From Australia, joined Jul 2006, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4199 times:

Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 6):
The helicopter shot has a white line along the border on the left side.

Thanks ... this is the correct image.

Big version: Width: 1097 Height: 668 File size: 900kb



Graham Slingsby
User currently offlineIFlyADesk From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 309 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4192 times:

What do you mean by "I Need Both Of These Images"?

User currently offlineAzza40 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 1052 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4180 times:

This time there is a dust spot on the image and it isn't just a bird! What is that brown poo spot above the propeller?


Aaron  swirl 



Not been on here for a good 2/3 years!
User currently offlineAero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4166 times:

 no 

1097x668 pixels = Bad size.

1024x683 is the normal size.

And 1097 pixels wide should be 731 pixels high.


User currently offlineAussieAviator From Australia, joined Jul 2006, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4147 times:

Quoting IFlyADesk (Reply 8):
What do you mean by "I Need Both Of These Images"?

Sorry?



Graham Slingsby
User currently offlineQ330 From Australia, joined Dec 2003, 1460 posts, RR: 21
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4144 times:

Quoting IFlyADesk (Reply 8):
What do you mean by "I Need Both Of These Images"?



Quoting AussieAviator (Thread starter):
... critiqued if possible ?

-Q



Long live the A330!
User currently offlineSinkrate From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 336 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4142 times:

Quoting AussieAviator (Reply 11):
Sorry?

In the title you said "I need both of these images". I assume this was continued on the first line of your post with:

Quoting AussieAviator (Thread starter):
... critiqued if possible ?

I got what you meant.

Michael


User currently offlineAussieAviator From Australia, joined Jul 2006, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4142 times:

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 10):
1097x668 pixels = Bad size.

1024x683 is the normal size.

And 1097 pixels wide should be 731 pixels high.

Thanks mate ... I obviously made a bad error there. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

Cheers,

Big version: Width: 210 Height: 280 File size: 81kb


Graham Slingsby



Graham Slingsby
User currently offlineAussieAviator From Australia, joined Jul 2006, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4139 times:

Quoting Azza40 (Reply 9):
What is that brown poo spot above the propeller?

Well spotted ! I didn't see that.

It is actually an RAAF Beech Kingair 350 (Nav Trainer) which departed about 5 min's before I snapped this shot. It's present in most of the other shots I took of the chopper as well. I didn't notice it previously.

I guess they don't allow you to clone out those back ground blemishes here either ?

Cheers,

Graham Slingsby



Graham Slingsby
User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3300 posts, RR: 13
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4125 times:
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Quoting Aero145 (Reply 10):
1097x668 pixels = Bad size.

1024x683 is the normal size.

And 1097 pixels wide should be 731 pixels high.

That's not always enforced strictly. My two newest shots in the DB are 1024x697, and 1024x695. And I've got another that's 1024x780.

Depending on the crop the aspect ratio is not crucial, as long as it's at least 1000 pixels wide and 667 high (those are the minimum dimensions, as given on the upload page).

So, as for your pictures, I like the helicopter one, but the F-18 will most likely get a motive rejection as the missile is blocking the majority of the aircraft and looks like it's out of place. With a wider crop showing the entire wing, thereby making more obvious that the missile is attached to it (though more people will realize that anyway) the motive issue might be resolved. But the missile really does take quite a bit away from the actual picture of the plane.

TIS



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User currently offlineAzza40 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 1052 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4125 times:

Clone them out, but just don't say that you have  Wink

Aaron  swirl 



Not been on here for a good 2/3 years!
User currently offlineSulman From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2035 posts, RR: 32
Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4121 times:

Quoting AussieAviator (Reply 15):
I guess they don't allow you to clone out those back ground blemishes here either ?

Hmm. If they look like blemishes (as small dark birds can), I think they're fair game under the cloning policy. A screener would give a definitive answer though.


James



It takes a big man to admit they are wrong, and I am not a big man.
User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 52
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4109 times:

Quoting AussieAviator (Thread starter):
All help gleefully accepted ! Thanks in advance.

I would quit using that photo in your posts as part of your signature, it is a violation of the site's rules. Do you see anyone else using them? Other then Bubbles and his silly waving smiley?


User currently offlineAussieAviator From Australia, joined Jul 2006, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4027 times:

Quoting JeffM (Reply 19):
I would quit using that photo in your posts as part of your signature, it is a violation of the site's rules. Do you see anyone else using them? Other then Bubbles and his silly waving smiley?

Right.

Actually, you might have missed the fact that I was seeking comments more in line with image critique.

On the same token, I have refamiliarised myself with the site rules and reg's.

Thankyou for your vigilance with this matter.

Perhaps you might like to offer some constructive criticism regarding the images - this would help me a hell of a lot more.

Thankyou.



Graham Slingsby
User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 52
Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4023 times:

Quoting AussieAviator (Reply 20):
you might have missed the fact that I was seeking comments more in line with image critique

What makes you think I missed that?

Quoting AussieAviator (Reply 20):
Perhaps you might like to offer some constructive criticism regarding the images - this would help me a hell of a lot more.

No thanks, there are too many 'rejection experts' here as you will soon see. Do you really want me to tell you what you did wrong? You may not like it.  Smile


User currently offlineAussieAviator From Australia, joined Jul 2006, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4017 times:

Quoting JeffM (Reply 21):
Do you really want me to tell you what you did wrong? You may not like it.

That's why I'm here ! Give it to me, good or bad. It's the only way I can effectively start learning.

I'm pretty thick skinned - so any criticism is good criticism - no matter how harsh.

I know the images aren't brilliant, but as a total beginner - this is my starting point ... so the harsher the comments, the better!

I rely on the comments made by experienced photographers such as yourself.

Cheers mate and thanks again ....



Graham Slingsby
User currently offlineSulman From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2035 posts, RR: 32
Reply 23, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3974 times:

Quoting AussieAviator (Reply 22):
I know the images aren't brilliant, but as a total beginner - this is my starting point ... so the harsher the comments, the better!

You're actually off to a decent starting point. I like the FA/18 image, and the perspective from the hardpoint. It needs a touch more sharpening around the fuselage, but very carefully. It might have been an idea to raise the viewpoint a little (I understand this may not have been physically possible!) so that more of the canopy is visible, whilst still keeping the badges visible. Either way, I like what you've done with this one.

The helicopter is marginal quality wise - it just lacks definition. Have you got the original anywhere?


James



It takes a big man to admit they are wrong, and I am not a big man.
User currently offlineAussieAviator From Australia, joined Jul 2006, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3759 times:

Quoting BrianW999 (Reply 31):
How about going back to the original theme of the post and help the guy with some constructive advice ?

Thankyou ! I concur totally. Sadly, this thread rapidly decayed into nothing. Perhaps it has exhaused its usefullness?

As a new member, I must ask - is this the typical reaction/response one receives when requesting assistance? If it is, I'll give the whole thing a big miss.

Thankyou very much to all those who DID take a mature approach and offer constructive assistance. Especially to those of you who contacted me off-line, extending assistance. Thankyou gentlemen.



Graham Slingsby
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